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Re: War groups are going downhill

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AssaultDragon55 is not online. AssaultDragon55
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31 Jul 2015 08:33 PM
In my opinion war groups are going downhill. All war groups should change their promotion system from the traditional method to the new point method. The traditional method makes advancement too fast. The point system requires you to put in more dedication and effort. The traditional method allows you to advance too fast. Groups still sticking with the traditional method may have to do constant reforms to prevent ranks from overflowing which results in the decrease of moral from the ones being demoted, as their rank are constantly being changed. After too many reforms, people will simply give up. One might say that is a lack of commitment and activity on their part, but the ones conducting the reforms are also at fault. For the many groups who have the traditional method and conduct reforms, I suggest sending a private message listing reasons for their demotions and how they could improve to the ones being demoted. This might seem time consuming, but it will prevent complaints of unfairness. The point system also allows people to take pride in their position as the point system makes ranks more difficult to obtain. Although the point method makes advancement slower, it is very steady, unlike the traditional system in which one can go months without advancement. This is just my opinion on the promotion aspect of war groups. Feel free to give your opinions.

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materking is not online. materking
Joined: 27 Sep 2008
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31 Jul 2015 08:33 PM
upraise of community groups
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OldKingConnor is not online. OldKingConnor
Joined: 14 Dec 2008
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31 Jul 2015 08:34 PM
By your logic war clans are bad for using classic methods of promotion. That is literally the only reason you stated.
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Zapolean is not online. Zapolean
Joined: 05 Apr 2012
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31 Jul 2015 08:36 PM
By your logic war clans are bad for using classic methods of promotion. That is literally the only reason you stated.[2]
and most clans do it and are fine


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AssaultDragon55 is not online. AssaultDragon55
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31 Jul 2015 08:37 PM
I am simply saying that war groups could improve themselves by switching over to the point system. It is more efficient, as you could see from the multiple reasons I stated my original post.
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OldKingConnor is not online. OldKingConnor
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31 Jul 2015 10:46 PM
Not really.

Who says you have to do reforms?
Who says you have to promote a ton of people quickly?
Who says you have to demote people in reforms?

What if, on the off chance you did do a reform, you just demoted the completely inactive people who don't do anything anymore? Then it wouldn't cause a problem whatsoever and it would clear out the ranks. Or, you could simply add more ranks. I highly doubt the clan has maxed out the ranks yet.
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Tsyolin is not online. Tsyolin
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31 Jul 2015 10:48 PM
"I am simply saying that war groups could improve themselves by switching over to the point system. It is more efficient, as you could see from the multiple reasons I stated my original post."

not efficient at all if you dont have a database.

hell i have a database but i dont have data persistence to make it work lol
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HelliousMonarch is not online. HelliousMonarch
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31 Jul 2015 10:48 PM
Funny because last time I checked most people owned clans, not war groups on here.

"War" groups are either based off of a war, or a group that's only purpose is to create wars.


And who is this directed at?

THe promotion system is fine, as long as it's not a super clan.


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CommendableFlight is not online. CommendableFlight
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31 Jul 2015 10:50 PM
Those point systems take up so much time and money
If you can't script then it takes up an extreme amount of money
If you can script but are too lazy and haven't scripted roughly within a year then it's time consuming
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webspace is not online. webspace
Joined: 25 Nov 2008
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31 Jul 2015 10:50 PM
"Funny because last time I checked most people owned clans, not war groups on here."



here I thought the weebs were the only thing I was going to laugh at today.
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OldKingConnor is not online. OldKingConnor
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01 Aug 2015 12:42 AM
For once I agree with weebspace

That was one of the dumbest things I've seen today on C&G
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HelliousMonarch is not online. HelliousMonarch
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01 Aug 2015 02:11 AM
Don't get how that humors you, but whatever

all i'm saying is that a war group is one of those ww2 clans or something

idiots


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webspace is not online. webspace
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01 Aug 2015 08:37 AM
Yeah you can't say what youb said and then call us idiots.


That's just not a thing someone in your position can do.
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toxic69 is not online. toxic69
Joined: 29 Jan 2011
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01 Aug 2015 08:38 AM
Nice word wall.

Not reading one bit of it.
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matt10010010010 is online. matt10010010010
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01 Aug 2015 08:41 AM
In my Military group I am going to make where 1/4 of The server gets Promoted (Have 20 people, 5 gets promoted) but the Point Method I will try in a few months or when my Military group has 100+ members. Thanks for the Idea AssaultDragon55!



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AssaultDragon55 is not online. AssaultDragon55
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01 Aug 2015 04:50 PM
"Those point systems take up so much time and money
If you can't script then it takes up an extreme amount of money
If you can script but are too lazy and haven't scripted roughly within a year then it's time consuming"

That will be a necessary sacrifice for a better group.


"Who says you have to do reforms?"
Super clans may eventually have to perform reforms unless they want rank overflows, such as having 800 Lieutenants. This results in ranks not having too much value and people becoming more greedy for promotions.
"Who says you have to promote a ton of people quickly?"
In the traditional system people are promoted very quickly. Especially if you are talking about super clans, who have many trainings a day.
"Who says you have to demote people in reforms?"
The point of reforms if to clear the ranks. People will be demoted.


"Funny because last time I checked most people owned clans, not war groups on here."War" groups are either based off of a war, or a group that's only purpose is to create wars."

I refer to them as "war groups" to avoid confusion due to groups already having a "clan".


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Antagonise is not online. Antagonise
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01 Aug 2015 04:52 PM
wait so
war groups are worse than what they were
because we're using promotion methods from the good days?

i don't see the correlation here
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LadyVengeance is not online. LadyVengeance
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01 Aug 2015 04:55 PM
Not going downhill.

Just changing.

In my opinion, it's gotten better since 2013
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ClearTime is not online. ClearTime
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01 Aug 2015 05:00 PM
tl;dr



i sell propane and fat chinese kids
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Sensed is not online. Sensed
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01 Aug 2015 05:06 PM
your altercation is uncorroborated
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ForeverWasted is not online. ForeverWasted
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01 Aug 2015 05:13 PM
>"War groups are going downhill"

>does nothing but tells us to promote people slower


because LOGIC!!!
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HelliousMonarch is not online. HelliousMonarch
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02 Aug 2015 05:04 AM
"someone in my position"

Oh, is it because my post count, I'm in no position to say what I want?

Where do you live?

Free speech.

Funny how you take the "idiots" thing so seriously xd


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DemonTitan is online. DemonTitan
Joined: 25 Apr 2010
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02 Aug 2015 05:05 AM
It's made up of mostly greedy, immature, and egotistical leaders. They have incompetent High Ranks, a unfair base, and claim auto-wins at raids and break war terms. That's the typical clan world these days. Not everyone is like this. I can admit myself I have been like that at one point, but it's not the way the clan world is supposed to be. Remember back in 2010, 2011, and part of 2012 where the clan world was actually decent still and not full of people that are just... disgusting? Is that the word for it? Yeah. We all talk about how we wish to go back to those old ways, but none of us ever take action. Clan leaders claim to hold these old ideals at "heart", but in reality they're still in it for the money, the notability, and to be egotistical about "holding" the old ideals at heart when in fact they're breaking those ideals by being that way. You also have people like FatherEmiliano, mass-reporting. That's another big issue, if you don't like someone you try to get them banned? Really? That's not the way that the clan world handles things, you prove your dominance over them in raids and wars, not banning. I myself don't care if I make money from owning a clan. I can admit defeat when I am defeated. If I see one of my High Ranks act up I get on them about it and if they continue I remove them, I don't care if they're my best friend or not. If you wish to run a successful clan you must keep your clan's interests at your highest priority and not what your friends think. When people like myself speak about these sort of things we get called "no-lifes" and told that we take this game too seriously when in fact we're just speaking about how the clan world used to be. It's made up of mostly greedy, immature, and egotistical leaders. They have incompetent High Ranks, a unfair base, and claim auto-wins at raids and break war terms. That's the typical clan world these days. Not everyone is like this. I can admit myself I have been like that at one point, but it's not the way the clan world is supposed to be. Remember back in 2010, 2011, and part of 2012 where the clan world was actually decent still and not full of people that are just... disgusting? Is that the word for it? Yeah. We all talk about how we wish to go back to those old ways, but none of us ever take action. Clan leaders claim to hold these old ideals at "heart", but in reality they're still in it for the money, the notability, and to be egotistical about "holding" the old ideals at heart when in fact they're breaking those ideals by being that way. You also have people like FatherEmiliano, mass-reporting. That's another big issue, if you don't like someone you try to get them banned? Really? That's not the way that the clan world handles things, you prove your dominance over them in raids and wars, not banning. I myself don't care if I make money from owning a clan. I can admit defeat when I am defeated. If I see one of my High Ranks act up I get on them about it and if they continue I remove them, I don't care if they're my best friend or not. If you wish to run a successful clan you must keep your clan's interests at your highest priority and not what your friends think. When people like myself speak about these sort of things we get called "no-lifes" and told that we take this game too seriously when in fact we're just speaking about how the clan world used to be. It's made up of mostly greedy, immature, and egotistical leaders. They have incompetent High Ranks, a unfair base, and claim auto-wins at raids and break war terms. That's the typical clan world these days. Not everyone is like this. I can admit myself I have been like that at one point, but it's not the way the clan world is supposed to be. Remember back in 2010, 2011, and part of 2012 where the clan world was actually decent still and not full of people that are just... disgusting? Is that the word for it? Yeah. We all talk about how we wish to go back to those old ways, but none of us ever take action. Clan leaders claim to hold these old ideals at "heart", but in reality they're still in it for the money, the notability, and to be egotistical about "holding" the old ideals at heart when in fact they're breaking those ideals by being that way. You also have people like FatherEmiliano, mass-reporting. That's another big issue, if you don't like someone you try to get them banned? Really? That's not the way that the clan world handles things, you prove your dominance over them in raids and wars, not banning. I myself don't care if I make money from owning a clan. I can admit defeat when I am defeated. If I see one of my High Ranks act up I get on them about it and if they continue I remove them, I don't care if they're my best friend or not. If you wish to run a successful clan you must keep your clan's interests at your highest priority and not what your friends think. When people like myself speak about these sort of things we get called "no-lifes" and told that we take this game too seriously when in fact we're just speaking about how the clan world used to be. It's made up of mostly greedy, immature, and egotistical leaders. They have incompetent High Ranks, a unfair base, and claim auto-wins at raids and break war terms. That's the typical clan world these days. Not everyone is like this. I can admit myself I have been like that at one point, but it's not the way the clan world is supposed to be. Remember back in 2010, 2011, and part of 2012 where the clan world was actually decent still and not full of people that are just... disgusting? Is that the word for it? Yeah. We all talk about how we wish to go back to those old ways, but none of us ever take action. Clan leaders claim to hold these old ideals at "heart", but in reality they're still in it for the money, the notability, and to be egotistical about "holding" the old ideals at heart when in fact they're breaking those ideals by being that way. You also have people like FatherEmiliano, mass-reporting. That's another big issue, if you don't like someone you try to get them banned? Really? That's not the way that the clan world handles things, you prove your dominance over them in raids and wars, not banning. I myself don't care if I make money from owning a clan. I can admit defeat when I am defeated. If I see one of my High Ranks act up I get on them about it and if they continue I remove them, I don't care if they're my best friend or not. If you wish to run a successful clan you must keep your clan's interests at your highest priority and not what your friends think. When people like myself speak about these sort of things we get called "no-lifes" and told that we take this game too seriously when in fact we're just speaking about how the clan world used to be. It's made up of mostly greedy, immature, and egotistical leaders. They have incompetent High Ranks, a unfair base, and claim auto-wins at raids and break war terms. That's the typical clan world these days. Not everyone is like this. I can admit myself I have been like that at one point, but it's not the way the clan world is supposed to be. Remember back in 2010, 2011, and part of 2012 where the clan world was actually decent still and not full of people that are just... disgusting? Is that the word for it? Yeah. We all talk about how we wish to go back to those old ways, but none of us ever take action. Clan leaders claim to hold these old ideals at "heart", but in reality they're still in it for the money, the notability, and to be egotistical about "holding" the old ideals at heart when in fact they're breaking those ideals by being that way. You also have people like FatherEmiliano, mass-reporting. That's another big issue, if you don't like someone you try to get them banned? Really? That's not the way that the clan world handles things, you prove your dominance over them in raids and wars, not banning. I myself don't care if I make money from owning a clan. I can admit defeat when I am defeated. If I see one of my High Ranks act up I get on them about it and if they continue I remove them, I don't care if they're my best friend or not. If you wish to run a successful clan you must keep your clan's interests at your highest priority and not what your friends think. When people like myself speak about these sort of things we get called "no-lifes" and told that we take this game too seriously when in fact we're just speaking about how the clan world used to be.It's made up of mostly greedy, immature, and egotistical leaders. They have incompetent High Ranks, a unfair base, and claim auto-wins at raids and break war terms. That's the typical clan world these days. Not everyone is like this. I can admit myself I have been like that at one point, but it's not the way the clan world is supposed to be. Remember back in 2010, 2011, and part of 2012 where the clan world was actually decent still and not full of people that are just... disgusting? Is that the word for it? Yeah. We all talk about how we wish to go back to those old ways, but none of us ever take action. Clan leaders claim to hold these old ideals at "heart", but in reality they're still in it for the money, the notability, and to be egotistical about "holding" the old ideals at heart when in fact they're breaking those ideals by being that way. You also have people like FatherEmiliano, mass-reporting. That's another big issue, if you don't like someone you try to get them banned? Really? That's not the way that the clan world handles things, you prove your dominance over them in raids and wars, not banning. I myself don't care if I make money from owning a clan. I can admit defeat when I am defeated. If I see one of my High Ranks act up I get on them about it and if they continue I remove them, I don't care if they're my best friend or not. If you wish to run a successful clan you must keep your clan's interests at your highest priority and not what your friends think. When people like myself speak about these sort of things we get called "no-lifes" and told that we take this game too seriously when in fact we're just speaking about how the clan world used to be. It's made up of mostly greedy, immature, and egotistical leaders. They have incompetent High Ranks, a unfair base, and claim auto-wins at raids and break war terms. That's the typical clan world these days. Not everyone is like this. I can admit myself I have been like that at one point, but it's not the way the clan world is supposed to be. Remember back in 2010, 2011, and part of 2012 where the clan world was actually decent still and not full of people that are just... disgusting? Is that the word for it? Yeah. We all talk about how we wish to go back to those old ways, but none of us ever take action. Clan leaders claim to hold these old ideals at "heart", but in reality they're still in it for the money, the notability, and to be egotistical about "holding" the old ideals at heart when in fact they're breaking those ideals by being that way. You also have people like FatherEmiliano, mass-reporting. That's another big issue, if you don't like someone you try to get them banned? Really? That's not the way that the clan world handles things, you prove your dominance over them in raids and wars, not banning. I myself don't care if I make money from owning a clan. I can admit defeat when I am defeated. If I see one of my High Ranks act up I get on them about it and if they continue I remove them, I don't care if they're my best friend or not. If you wish to run a successful clan you must keep your clan's interests at your highest priority and not what your friends think. When people like myself speak about these sort of things we get called "no-lifes" and told that we take this game too seriously when in fact we're just speaking about how the clan world used to be. It's made up of mostly greedy, immature, and egotistical leaders. They have incompetent High Ranks, a unfair base, and claim auto-wins at raids and break war terms. That's the typical clan world these days. Not everyone is like this. I can admit myself I have been like that at one point, but it's not the way the clan world is supposed to be. Remember back in 2010, 2011, and part of 2012 where the clan world was actually decent still and not full of people that are just... disgusting? Is that the word for it? Yeah. We all talk about how we wish to go back to those old ways, but none of us ever take action. Clan leaders claim to hold these old ideals at "heart", but in reality they're still in it for the money, the notability, and to be egotistical about "holding" the old ideals at heart when in fact they're breaking those ideals by being that way. You also have people like FatherEmiliano, mass-reporting. That's another big issue, if you don't like someone you try to get them banned? Really? That's not the way that the clan world handles things, you prove your dominance over them in raids and wars, not banning. I myself don't care if I make money from owning a clan. I can admit defeat when I am defeated. If I see one of my High Ranks act up I get on them about it and if they continue I remove them, I don't care if they're my best friend or not. If you wish to run a successful clan you must keep your clan's interests at your highest priority and not what your friends think. When people like myself speak about these sort of things we get called "no-lifes" and told that we take this game too seriously when in fact we're just speaking about how the clan world used to be. It's made up of mostly greedy, immature, and egotistical leaders. They have incompetent High Ranks, a unfair base, and claim auto-wins at raids and break war terms. That's the typical clan world these days. Not everyone is like this. I can admit myself I have been like that at one point, but it's not the way the clan world is supposed to be. Remember back in 2010, 2011, and part of 2012 where the clan world was actually decent still and not full of people that are just... disgusting? Is that the word for it? Yeah. We all talk about how we wish to go back to those old ways, but none of us ever take action. Clan leaders claim to hold these old ideals at "heart", but in reality they're still in it for the money, the notability, and to be egotistical about "holding" the old ideals at heart when in fact they're breaking those ideals by being that way. You also have people like FatherEmiliano, mass-reporting. That's another big issue, if you don't like someone you try to get them banned? Really? That's not the way that the clan world handles things, you prove your dominance over them in raids and wars, not banning. I myself don't care if I make money from owning a clan. I can admit defeat when I am defeated. If I see one of my High Ranks act up I get on them about it and if they continue I remove them, I don't care if they're my best friend or not. If you wish to run a successful clan you must keep your clan's interests at your highest priority and not what your friends think. When people like myself speak about these sort of things we get called "no-lifes" and told that we take this game too seriously when in fact we're just speaking about how the clan world used to be. It's made up of mostly greedy, immature, and egotistical leaders. They have incompetent High Ranks, a unfair base, and claim auto-wins at raids and break war terms. That's the typical clan world these days. Not everyone is like this. I can admit myself I have been like that at one point, but it's not the way the clan world is supposed to be. Remember back in 2010, 2011, and part of 2012 where the clan world was actually decent still and not full of people that are just... disgusting? Is that the word for it? Yeah. We all talk about how we wish to go back to those old ways, but none of us ever take action. Clan leaders claim to hold these old ideals at "heart", but in reality they're still in it for the money, the notability, and to be egotistical about "holding" the old ideals at heart when in fact they're breaking those ideals by being that way. You also have people like FatherEmiliano, mass-reporting. That's another big issue, if you don't like someone you try to get them banned? Really? That's not the way that the clan world handles things, you prove your dominance over them in raids and wars, not banning. I myself don't care if I make money from owning a clan. I can admit defeat when I am defeated. If I see one of my High Ranks act up I get on them about it and if they continue I remove them, I don't care if they're my best friend or not. If you wish to run a successful clan you must keep your clan's interests at your highest priority and not what your friends think. When people like myself speak about these sort of things we get called "no-lifes" and told that we take this game too seriously when in fact we're just speaking about how the clan world used to be.
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HelliousMonarch is not online. HelliousMonarch
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02 Aug 2015 05:08 AM
And that's how DemonTitan rekt everyone.


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02 Aug 2015 03:25 PM
and thats how demontitan copy and pasted a message 10 times in a row to make it seem longer
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