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Re: Why are people claiming "UAF > VAK" all of a sudden

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Belmontlegend255 is not online. Belmontlegend255
Joined: 22 Sep 2007
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01 Aug 2015 07:40 AM
I don't see what an unfinished "3-2" war score proves; at least with VOID there was a a large 5 win gap with none on VAK's part.

Personally, VAK's compromises were very reasonable and perfectly fine. The thing is, people (on both sides) got way too sensitive and personal and got pride in the way of having what could have been an enjoyable war. For some reason, they thought that accepting VAK's compromises would have counted as something of a surrender, because (aside from option 4), I genuinely think that VAK's proposals were reasonable and would have been better than the current conclusion.

People often basically refute this with "oh, but VAK serverhopped, so they shouldn't even _have_ a say on what's fair or not!" -- I think both sides were being nonsensical, but VAK's multiple proposals were simply better. Do people really prioritize assigning blame over the continuation of what could have been an enjoyable war?

Overall, this only adds to my suspicion that false intentionally froze the war score 3-2 in order to gain the lead and gain the favor of the crowd. I like UAF and I've never even been in VAK aside from a brief 2-day stint in VAC, but this is my honest opinion.
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W1801 is not online. W1801
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01 Aug 2015 07:44 AM

People seem to ignore the fact that UAF began shutting down servers (Three near victory servers) at Red Sandstorm before Vaktovia closed a server down.
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LegendSoul12 is not online. LegendSoul12
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01 Aug 2015 07:44 AM
because everyone likes to jump on the current bandwagon

also using words you found on a thesaurus makes everyone think you're smart
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mecatab is not online. mecatab
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01 Aug 2015 07:44 AM
belmont with the pipe bomb

inb4

"LOL VAK IS BAD"

Are you satisfied?
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W1801 is not online. W1801
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01 Aug 2015 07:46 AM

"Overall, this only adds to my suspicion that false intentionally froze the war score 3-2 in order to gain the lead and gain the favor of the crowd."

Couldn't have said it better. Support.
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Belmontlegend255 is not online. Belmontlegend255
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01 Aug 2015 07:46 AM
legend i only ever use a thesaurus if i need to find a synonym for a word i'm using too much (which is the only reason why anyone should ever use a thesaurus)

but i didn't use a thesaurus at all when i wrote this and i don't see any incredibly difficult vocabulary please point to which word you think i used a thesaurus on
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LegendSoul12 is not online. LegendSoul12
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01 Aug 2015 07:47 AM
I'm not talking about you Belmont.

I'm talking about False.
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Belmontlegend255 is not online. Belmontlegend255
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01 Aug 2015 07:48 AM
oh lol it was worded so that i thought you were referring to me
sorry haha
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mecatab is not online. mecatab
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01 Aug 2015 07:49 AM
bel make ur own clan

ill join

scrubteamsix

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Belmontlegend255 is not online. Belmontlegend255
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01 Aug 2015 07:51 AM
i want to start up my own clan but i don't have a lot of good resources + my schedule is way too hectic + i don't want to buy bc

however if i'm still around i will definitely try and start something up next spring/summer since i'll be much more free
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mecatab is not online. mecatab
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01 Aug 2015 07:58 AM
wowwww

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LegendSoul12 is not online. LegendSoul12
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01 Aug 2015 08:00 AM
You could lead a clan with me if you want.
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Belmontlegend255 is not online. Belmontlegend255
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01 Aug 2015 08:02 AM
if we get a lot of people then sure, but me by myself won't be of much help
i could do a lot but nothing in-game since i'm on my phone 24/7
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Flatflow is not online. Flatflow
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01 Aug 2015 08:02 AM
because bandwagon is strong, i looked around and from what i heard UAF decided they should decide what servers they raid in order to have it so that they can heavily outnumber VAK when you know you shouldn't really get that option when you're the ones raiding, idk about the negotiations.


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LegendSoul12 is not online. LegendSoul12
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01 Aug 2015 08:02 AM
That's fine. I actually just made one.
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Belmontlegend255 is not online. Belmontlegend255
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01 Aug 2015 08:05 AM
i don't know i was thinking of starting one up by myself based on my ideas because the last time i did that was in 2011 and that was a blowout

sorry i think i might just go out on my own but if you'd like help, you could apply/request aid from the foundation (when your group is a little more formed though)
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LegendSoul12 is not online. LegendSoul12
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01 Aug 2015 08:06 AM
Oh, they're still accepting?
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Belmontlegend255 is not online. Belmontlegend255
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01 Aug 2015 08:09 AM
not yet but by the time we do you should apply (they usually don't accept clans made very recently)

we're also implementing a better request system in which if a developer likes your idea, they can work with it instead of applying for the full package (don't know if pricing is involved in that yet though)
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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01 Aug 2015 08:12 AM
belmont, vaks "compromises" weren't reasonable

vak has served hopped so many times in the past and even in that war, yet they want to remove it because someone used it against them? do you know what would have happened if server hopping was removed?

If it was removed vak would have sat at SMO with a half-filled server and made uaf fight even numbers/outnumbered every raid
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Flatflow is not online. Flatflow
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01 Aug 2015 08:16 AM
Ned you're saying it as if UAF wouldn't do the exact same thing.


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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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01 Aug 2015 08:19 AM
@flat

sorry but vak was the ONLY one who sat in a 2nd server and refused to defend the 1st

vak hasn't won a war without cheating since pre-vak/tgi, and its pathetic that vak puts up a bunch of "compromises" that favor vak when >THEY< were the ones who refused to defend/cheated
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ClanNotGuilds is not online. ClanNotGuilds
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01 Aug 2015 08:27 AM
the server was already official, if we left it would have remained official which mean someone could have rejoined the server and claimed a free win

if you didn't shutdown those three close to winning servers, the score would have been 4/5-3 in our favour.
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ClanNotGuilds is not online. ClanNotGuilds
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01 Aug 2015 08:28 AM
"vak hasn't won a war without cheating since pre-vak/tgi"

what about the VAK-RAT war huh?
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Abudder202 is not online. Abudder202
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01 Aug 2015 08:28 AM
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=169545266



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUy9_0M3bVk || Abudder202
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Flatflow is not online. Flatflow
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01 Aug 2015 08:39 AM
i dont see how its VAKs fault that UAF decide they want to outnumber VAK and in reality refuse to attack a running and prepared server to instead hop into their own empty server so they can outnumber VAK then their plan goes a bit t1ts up when VAK isn't prepared to get fked over and UAF start pulling a hissy fit by shutting down their servers.


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