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Re: [UAF] The Vaktovian Turtles (Part 2)

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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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29 Jul 2015 07:24 PM
Part 1: ( http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=168790033 )

Comrades, it is with deepest regret that I must report to you the futility of around 600 hours of negotiations (25 days) with the Vaktovian Empire in a classic example of contemporary clan warfare.

We've wasted endless hours in private conversations with an apathetic Emperor (imgr /0qzB2qj) and the Vaktovian HICOM to discuss the the terms of Vaktovian ultimatums. This attitude, adhereing to the old saying "my way or the highway", has resulted in the Vaktovian Empire threatening to end the war on multiple occasions, only some of them depicted here (img, v4NFyKx,BTQIjyt,P2vPIbG,gcQiVfQ,W4Tv4F4).

Members of the Patrian and Vaktovian HICOMs met on 7/28/15 to discuss resumption of the war following Saturday's ceasefire. Following the abortive Vaktovian invasion of 7/25, the Vaktovian Empire developed an aversion to serverhopping and a conviction to completely ban it from play, despite using it themselves at Red Sandstorm. The Motherland's opinion on the matter is clearly expressed by this anonymous member.

"They want to disallow server-hopping so they can fill all the servers with 12 VAC so they don't lose defenses. It's a simple tactic, really. Enemy can't outnumber you? There's a little chance that they'll be able to win- no man that would actually want a fun war would agree to not being able to switch servers."-Patrian, 7/28/15

The Vaktovian Empire then had the audacity to demand that the terms be completely rewritten in order to relieve them of their obligation to defend all servers. In fact, their demand flys in the face of Vaktus' personal assurance to me, which was later ignored (hFSiUmT & CCB8AJf img)! In order to keep server maneuverability, the Vaktovian Empire demanded the following intolerable concessions.

- Increase defender requirement from 8 defenders to 10 on both bases. (Vaktus claimed serverhopping was an "exploit" (img MTF4cm4 )).

- Give VAK one free win for their refusal to defend. (If UAF cannot raid VAK, VAK may not raid UAF)

- Speed up the terminal recapture time at SMO II and remove the A&B terminals which make the main terminal go faster.

Expressing our discontent for this deal was a bit too much for the Vaktovian Empire, resulting in an abrupt end to the negotiations (/DaE3EMm). Incensed, I challenged Vaktus to explain his actions and pled with him to resume the war, from which the following chatlogs resulted (/VqcSvIg , /3fSEvtt , /z3oIOvZ). Despite his ultimatum, I offer VAK a compromise once more, though do so publicly.

- Increase defender requirement from 8 defenders to 9 on both of our bases, while also raising the server sizes of each base to 23.

- Change the SMO II terminal recapture time to match Red Sandstorm's rollback (100 seconds / 1 min 40 seconds to recapture).

- Allow UAF to add a sprint feature to Red Sandstorm (as SMO II has one).

The Patrians will now issue an ultimatum of their own. The Vaktovian Empire has 24 hours to respond and negotiate about our compromise or they may walk away from the war. We are done hearing your ultimatums and wasting our time, Vaktus. If you don't "need" this war or want it, you may leave (imgr /0qzB2qj).

The choice is yours.

Sincerely,
UAF
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IntenseSnows is not online. IntenseSnows
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29 Jul 2015 07:25 PM
woof woof
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silentfox123 is not online. silentfox123
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29 Jul 2015 07:25 PM
For the Forces!


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UrbanPhoenix is not online. UrbanPhoenix
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29 Jul 2015 07:25 PM
le motherland force
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ThePhoenixDev is not online. ThePhoenixDev
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29 Jul 2015 07:25 PM
Just wanted a war. So much negotiating for 1 little war.
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Kling2296 is not online. Kling2296
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29 Jul 2015 07:26 PM
So it begins, a second time.

Why does quicksand work slowly?
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29 Jul 2015 07:26 PM
psh
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29 Jul 2015 07:27 PM
For the motherland.
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Cloro is not online. Cloro
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29 Jul 2015 07:27 PM
the man thinks he can say no to war, ya mom aint tellin ya to come for diner, the big man knockin on yo do' son
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Gbronzed is not online. Gbronzed
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29 Jul 2015 07:28 PM
Read it all
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Lucara is not online. Lucara
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29 Jul 2015 07:28 PM
Yea
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Sencu is not online. Sencu
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29 Jul 2015 07:29 PM
1st page
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bark bark
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29 Jul 2015 07:30 PM
madness!
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29 Jul 2015 07:30 PM
WAR IS THE ONLY WAY





FOR THE FORCES
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Ghost0ps is not online. Ghost0ps
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29 Jul 2015 07:30 PM
Is there a tl;dr version?
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Obtention is not online. Obtention
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29 Jul 2015 07:31 PM
Shots fired.

♔ Charles Obtention Radelek II ♔
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29 Jul 2015 07:31 PM
rofl
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29 Jul 2015 07:32 PM
no bias.

You're getting on my nerves.
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LordVledak is not online. LordVledak
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29 Jul 2015 07:33 PM
FC would crush, freeze, add febreeze, and destroy.


:]
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pelorus is not online. pelorus
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29 Jul 2015 07:33 PM
FC would crush, freeze, add febreeze, and destroy.[2]


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kelthor is not online. kelthor
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29 Jul 2015 07:33 PM
hmm
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mrtotempole is not online. mrtotempole
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29 Jul 2015 07:33 PM
For the forces.
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SirBackspace is not online. SirBackspace
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29 Jul 2015 07:34 PM
PRO PATRIA
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silentfox123 is not online. silentfox123
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29 Jul 2015 07:35 PM
@Ghost, Tl;dr, Ceasefire happened, tried to negotiate, VAK started giving us unreasonable negotiations, things went downhill, we're trying to repair the situation.


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