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Re: Deathcore vs Death Metal

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ttag is not online. ttag
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13 May 2015 12:09 PM
I got bored so I decided to compare two genres that people either love or hate. I'm being fair on both genres and I will be generalising on this.

Deathcore Vocals: usually pig squeals, screaming, growling and gang shouts.
Death Metal Vocals: growling and vocal frys.

Deathcore Lyrical content: Gore and personal issues.
Death Metal Lyrical content: Gore, Satanism, and religion.

Deathcore Style of play: Blast beats, breakdowns, palm muting and tremolo picking and distorted, low tuned guitars.
Death Metal Style of play: Palm muting, tremolo picking, guitar solos, blast beats and distorted, low tuned guitars.

In my opinion their pretty even genres, Deathcore has better vocal techniques while Death Metal has better lyrical content and they are pretty even wise in their style of play (however I do think generally Death Metal takes more talented guitar playing than Deathcore). So all in all i'd choose Death Metal.

Opinions on these genres?
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OMGITSTWIZZY is not online. OMGITSTWIZZY
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13 May 2015 12:14 PM
i like this breakdown and really thought deathcore and death metal didnt have a lot in common. i just prefer deathcore over death metal just because im that guy.
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BigGucciTownesVanXan is not online. BigGucciTownesVanXan
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13 May 2015 12:34 PM
I'm not really into either of them but I will say overall death metal is probably better just because there are proven, "good" death metal acts and there aren't any recognized deathcore bands as of right now.
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Scxurge is not online. Scxurge
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13 May 2015 01:09 PM
>there aren't any recognized deathcore bands as of right now.

what do you mean?


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BigGucciTownesVanXan is not online. BigGucciTownesVanXan
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13 May 2015 01:11 PM
There aren't flagship deathcore bands people respect or acknowledge outside of deathcore fans.
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BigGucciTownesVanXan is not online. BigGucciTownesVanXan
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13 May 2015 01:11 PM
deathcore fanbase*
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Scxurge is not online. Scxurge
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13 May 2015 01:29 PM
>There aren't flagship deathcore bands people respect or acknowledge outside of deathcore fans.

there's a fairly large percentage of stereotypical metalheads who listen to stuff like metallica and pantera that also listen to entry level dxc


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13 May 2015 01:31 PM
"there's a fairly large percentage of stereotypical metalheads who listen to stuff like metallica and pantera that also listen to entry level dxc"

source?
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13 May 2015 02:04 PM
nope
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EarthboundFTW is not online. EarthboundFTW
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13 May 2015 04:27 PM
deathcore>>>death metal
death metal is pretty good tho, especially slam and modern tech, along with some grindcore

also yes there are popular dxc bands
Suicide Silence, Whitechapel, Thy Art Is Murder, The Acacia Strain, Attila, Emmure, Chelsea Grin, Carnifex, and Job For A Cowboy are all huge


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BigGucciTownesVanXan is not online. BigGucciTownesVanXan
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13 May 2015 04:36 PM
Those bands are popular among fans of deathcore but no one else
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japandroid is not online. japandroid
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13 May 2015 04:37 PM
both trash
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iwantmykfc is not online. iwantmykfc
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13 May 2015 04:41 PM
"Those bands are popular among fans of deathcore but no one else"
Suicide Silence and Attila are so popular
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Mattakae is not online. Mattakae
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13 May 2015 04:42 PM
I don't like both tbh, but death metal's sub-genres can be amazing.
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BigGucciTownesVanXan is not online. BigGucciTownesVanXan
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13 May 2015 04:56 PM
"Suicide Silence and Attila are so popular"

nah
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Scxurge is not online. Scxurge
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13 May 2015 04:56 PM
>source?

just go on ifunny and find the MHN group of kids. they'll most likely tell you that they enjoy/can tolerate anything in the deathcore genre


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ttag is not online. ttag
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13 May 2015 04:58 PM
The only don't like about deathcore is how easy it is to play. You could literally have no experience with guitars and be able to play deathcore on one.
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EarthboundFTW is not online. EarthboundFTW
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13 May 2015 05:12 PM
"nah"
oh yeah, Fronz only has a networth of 1 million+ bc they're popular in the deathcore scene
i mean, a lot of his profits are from Stay Sick and Spur, but Attila are very popular with regular scene kids and the whole Warped Tour crowd
same with Suicide Silence, who are also popular with mainstream metalheads now, along with TAIM and Whitechapel, seeing as they've all been on Mayhem Festival either this year or last year


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BigGucciTownesVanXan is not online. BigGucciTownesVanXan
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13 May 2015 05:15 PM
Again they're popular within the deathcore fanbase and some "metalheads" who keep up with modern acts but they don't really have an impact outside of those two subgroups.

The only fans of Suicide Silence and Attila I've seen are self-professed "metalheads" who exclusively listen to deathcore and other scene stuff. I haven't seen the average music listener just bump deathcore out of the blue.
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LouisThomas11 is not online. LouisThomas11
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14 May 2015 07:00 PM
For the record I'm not saying this because I dislike deathcore. I'm really into The Contortionist
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14 May 2015 09:55 PM
" there aren't any recognized deathcore bands as of right now."

in the mainstream, suicide silence is definitely huge. at their peak they were more popular than all other deathcore bands combined pretty much. 44 million views is nothing to laugh at.

in the elitist metal communities, all shall perish, veil of maya, rings of saturn, and born of osiris all get some attention.

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"I don't like both tbh, but death metal's sub-genres can be amazing. "

melodeath is soooo good

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"oh yeah, Fronz only has a networth of 1 million+ bc they're popular in the deathcore scene"

are attila even deathcore any more? like rage and outlawed were deathcore-y but about that life was lighter and guilty pleasure was pretty much purely metalcore mixed with rap metal

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"The only fans of Suicide Silence and Attila I've seen are self-professed "metalheads" who exclusively listen to deathcore and other scene stuff. I haven't seen the average music listener just bump deathcore out of the blue."

my favorite bands are soilwork, arch enemy, machine head, trivium, and the agonist (none of them even remotely scene) and i like some deathcore. not very much, but some.

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"The vocals are well, crap, especially the male ones." -metal archives review of the agonist
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Jinglehasse is not online. Jinglehasse
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14 May 2015 09:58 PM
lol
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ttag is not online. ttag
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15 May 2015 02:14 AM
Rage and Outlawed were more metalcore in my opinion.

The other later two were deathcore but with rapcore in it.
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Bodomfan is not online. Bodomfan
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15 May 2015 06:32 PM
@earth

Yeah, except JFAC stopped being Deathcore after their first EP.
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3rdalty is not online. 3rdalty
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15 May 2015 06:36 PM
death metal is a favourite of mine, but i respect deathcore as it (to me) is the new face of the sub-genre.
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