Fruuits
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| 10 Jul 2015 10:39 PM |
What makes you think you can abolish a peice of the government? 200 signatures and you declaring that because of you getting this amount of signatures gets you what you want?
I shake my head to the stupid HoR and Senators that have signed Ichigos dumb thread and I even shake my head to a recent HoR who tried making his own to remove the Senate.
What is wrong with you guys.
-fruitsz, 1 dayed for being a thug |
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dans59
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| 10 Jul 2015 10:48 PM |
| who cares, stop giving it attention, it's not going to work anyway |
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SigmaHD
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| 10 Jul 2015 10:48 PM |
calling out fruit for being fraud
fruuits is his main |
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| 10 Jul 2015 10:58 PM |
| FruitsZ, ur really dumb. If the people want change in the government they can rally and make the change. That is what the founding fathers wanted! They wanted the people to know they have the power over the government and can literally overthrow it. Now we dont want to overthrow the entire government and start a new. We just want to restart the HoR. We dont want to abolish the HoR we want to remove all current HoR and have elections for new ones. |
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Lolrothic
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Aquilius
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| 11 Jul 2015 12:15 AM |
| HAIL KING GEORGE THE xIIIIIIIIIth HIS MAJESTY |
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shmerby
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| 11 Jul 2015 12:47 AM |
| Wrong, "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams And these communists are not "Moral" |
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Fruuits
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| 11 Jul 2015 12:50 AM |
First off you elect the HoRs and congress so it's your fault that you think their bad
Second if they really wanted to give citizens that power they didn't and they realize we would have a dumber generation as time goes by and they wouldn't know if that generation would of used the power for actually good reason.
There's no legislation saying you can. |
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soviet510
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| 11 Jul 2015 12:51 AM |
Sith, you're really dumb.
What makes you think your biased a$$ can simply overthrow half of Congress because you were impeached?
200 signatures doesn't equal to half of this country, let alone 5 percent of it. |
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zakpak123
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| 11 Jul 2015 01:06 AM |
| calling out fruitsz for trying to be the democratic fox news |
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| 11 Jul 2015 01:06 AM |
Soviet, 1st was't impeached because never given a senate trial.
Im not the one trying "overthrow half of congress" I am supporting ichigo's plan to RESTART IT! CAN YOU PEOPLE READ? ARE YOU REALLY THAT LAZY TO READ? The referendum isn't to shut down the HoR it's to start it anew meaning removing all the current HoR yes but then having elections to replace all of them.
"ur bias a$$" Sorry I think HoR is filled with corrupt people who do whatever FruitsZ their supreme leader tells them. Tbh its kind of true. Not saying all HoR are doing it but some of them do and it kind of it's discouraging to other HoR who may see it but are scared to do anything about it.
The people have the right to do this you idiots. Thats what the founding fathers envisioned. If the mass of people don't like how the government is working, they can change it by either overthrowing (if it's really bad) or simply getting new leadership this more peaceful way.
The reason it is 200 is because although this has over 100K members do see nearly that at LV or DC? Or posting on the wall? So many people included in that number are inactive or alts or people that are just in the group because they saw a USA group on roblox and thought it would be cool to join but dont understand or care to find out what is going on. |
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| 11 Jul 2015 01:07 AM |
wait, nobody else is an anarcho-communist here? i printed all those fliers out and everything. |
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soviet510
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| 11 Jul 2015 01:34 AM |
You were impeached, just like how Zeyad was.
If you were not given a trial, then it was done illegally, but it still doesn't change the fact you were impeached.
But the difference between you and him was that Zeyad filed a court case with the SCJ and won.
Surprised you haven't tried to do the same.
"The reason it is 200 is because although this has over 100K members do see nearly that at LV or DC? Or posting on the wall? So many people included in that number are inactive or alts or people that are just in the group because they saw a USA group on roblox and thought it would be cool to join but dont understand or care to find out what is going on."
There is no where that says 200 equals the majority of USA.
I can guarantee thousands of people do post on the wall, and thousands do visit our cities weekly.
"(67,408 last week)"-- LV
" "ur bias a$$" Sorry I think HoR is filled with corrupt people who do whatever FruitsZ their supreme leader tells them. Tbh its kind of true. Not saying all HoR are doing it but some of them do and it kind of it's discouraging to other HoR who may see it but are scared to do anything about it."
Where is the evidence of this supposed corruption? I have yet to see it. We have a justice system which sadly you were part of. You're innocent until proven guilty, and just because you or many others claim the House is corrupt doesn't mean it is.
If you actually read the constitution you'd know how the referendum is used and why Ichigo is wrong.
Here is the 20th amendment.
TWENTIETH AMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION
The President of the United States, the Speaker of the House and the Vice President of the United States; shall have the right to ask for a referendum to veto a bill or an executive order. The majority of 60% of the votes must be in support and shall be required for a referendum to pass.
A referendum shall be hosted via a trello-made place that shall be put up in the United States shout for a duration of 48 hours.
A referendum can be cancelled at any time by it’s host.
A referendum has to reach a minimum of 200 votes for it to be counted.
4. A referendum may only be used once every month.
If you read it, you'd know that the referendum could only be used in order to veto a bill or an executive order.
"to veto a bill or an executive order."
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RoDuck3D
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| 11 Jul 2015 01:37 AM |
| neckbeard argument over a lego game, begin |
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| 11 Jul 2015 01:41 AM |
so soviet, fruits I am going to get hypothetical here.
What if today irl in the USA 220 million of the 318.9 million people didn't want democracy as the form of government anymore. Are you really going to say "you cant do that it isn't in the constitution to abolish a part of the government" lolno. The people are the ones in power whether you like it or not sir and if they mass together even to just refresh the HoR, they have the right to do it. Please stop trying to take the rights away from the citizens lolkthxbai. im going to sleep |
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| 11 Jul 2015 01:46 AM |
The United States government needs a completely clean slate. Wipe EVERYONE after these upcoming elections. During that period time Nightgaladeld needs to manage everything until a new set of elections can be held. That will make it completely fair for *everyone* to run because they won't be immediately overshadowed by someone bigger than them. This "clean slate" comes with a minor headaches though:
-Term limits are reset (one more year of Lumidas!!!!!!!!!)
I say that we leave Congress as it is only until the Presidency can be sorted out. I suggest a brand new constitution written by a constitutional convention and feedback requested from the people is drafted and used to govern the nation. Then, we make a rule to where that constitution may only be AMENDED, and not completely changed. This prevents abuse of power via new Constitution and limits the margin for errors in a new document.
Once the Presidency is set up, the new President should work together with Nightgaladeld to set up a new Congress, which works under the constitution written in my previous paragraph. This new Congress' powers should be explicitly written into the constitution and reiterated in it's own house rules. A clause to maintain activity should be required. All Congressional activities should take place on forum posts and the group wall (at the same time). President will sign/veto a bill on the Congress wall and shout in main USA his justification for doing so.
Once a new Congress is set up, it's time to fix the Supreme Court to fit within the boundaries of the new Constitution and nothing more. This part should be extremely easy.
During this clean state, all previous penalties are forgiven. It's a chance for everyone to start over, but I suggest all previous databases be maintained for posterity. These can then be called into evidence, should the person offend again after being offered a second chance.
-Fauxtillion |
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Ossadea
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| 11 Jul 2015 01:46 AM |
I support Sith, the one with a brain in this thread |
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soviet510
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| 11 Jul 2015 01:52 AM |
Honestly guys take it from me.
Congress has almost zero corruption. The last of it left with Ozzy, and we've got fresh faces, and good older timers such as myself in it.
Do you wonder why Ichigo wants to really want to reform the House? Some of his alts were caught and it's much harder to get in as opposed to before.
I've been in Congress longer than everyone else and I can spot it faster than everybody else. Ichigo has in fact committed election fraud and it's also the reasons as to why people ayed his EXPULSIONS!
He was expelled twice, not once, but twice... |
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soviet510
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| 11 Jul 2015 01:54 AM |
Sith, the thing is only 200 people really want to abolish part of the Government which is at it's best state.
Not even 5 percent of the citizens want to restart the House.
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soviet510
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| 11 Jul 2015 02:01 AM |
As cool as nuking them Japs in ww2
faux thought u died! where did u go?
get on skype |
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| 11 Jul 2015 02:03 AM |
| i am on skype message me i am emperor tokugawa |
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| 11 Jul 2015 07:57 AM |
Thug life.
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Fruuits
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| 11 Jul 2015 08:00 AM |
| Sith honestly you're a complete moron and don't see why you're running for the house if you're complaining so much. If 220 million people wanted to end democracy then they would have to get a rep to present it and vote. Your Arguement is that you have imaginary right to remove a government but won't show me where that law says you can. Whatever let it get 200 signatures and we still won't do crap, there's a little something called laws in the NUSA. |
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