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Re: FC is actually just as bad at negotiating as VAK

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LordVydrak is not online. LordVydrak
Joined: 16 Jul 2011
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07 Jul 2015 09:32 PM
coventry is easily one of the fairest forts on ROBLOX while FW2 is known as one of the most bullcrap forts on ROBLOX

yet FC still somehow finds the audacity to request balancing updates to Coventry but won't remove their stupid barrels at FW lmao

the clan is generally average skill wise and their barrels practically defend their fort for them

RAA has been dead for nearly 6 months and could still put up a better fight on a fair war zone than FC
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paul321321 is not online. paul321321
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07 Jul 2015 09:34 PM
lol
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GloveMaker is not online. GloveMaker
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07 Jul 2015 09:35 PM
that moment when barrels are legit BARELY used

Squids roam all over the ocean... waiting to eat you!
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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07 Jul 2015 09:35 PM
you're the idiot considering you have no clue what you're talking about

"won't remove their stupid barrels at FW lmao"

i offered to remove all op barrels (highest barrel would be pink and we showed sas what it was, and he even agreed it was ok)

i also offered to decrease server size (they wanted), decrease defender count, and decrease ws requirement

fc isnt making base updates without something, and i gave sas >FOUR< things for >ONLY ONE<, which was the rmeoval of the vtol (sas even said himself raa dont use it, so whats the issue)?

and if you want to argue fw2's fairness, be my guest. keep in mind that raa's incapabilities with bows doesnt make the base unfair, it simply makes raa bad
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Ghosty2Spooks is not online. Ghosty2Spooks
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07 Jul 2015 09:36 PM
"yet FC still somehow finds the audacity to request balancing updates to Coventry but won't remove their stupid barrels at FW lmao"

the issue was not that we were not open to removing particular barrels the issue is that we were getting nothing in return for doing so
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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07 Jul 2015 09:36 PM
Synoan wants something for nothing. FC wants Synoan to make some sort of concession in return, and he's refusing to do so. That's what I've gleaned of the situation thus far.
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HighSparrows is not online. HighSparrows
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07 Jul 2015 09:37 PM
LordVydrak is a bully victim

lmao

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LordVydrak is not online. LordVydrak
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07 Jul 2015 09:38 PM
lmfao why do you expect RAA to update coventry it's entirely fair

you need to update your fort because it's straight up bullcrap

nederlandz you wrote all of that just to prove nothing lmfao go home dude
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Ghettoneff is not online. Ghettoneff
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07 Jul 2015 09:38 PM
do you realize how difficult it is to get a vtol? theres a capture point right next to it and some1 can easily spawn and kill you while you're looking through the menu. not to mention its like 2500 credits which is about 50 kills implying that you don't get killed and lose 25 credits
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HighSparrows is not online. HighSparrows
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07 Jul 2015 09:39 PM
rfst rekt raa
stop talking
1v1 wij
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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07 Jul 2015 09:39 PM
obviously you're stupid considering the only thing you said fc wouldnt do, we offered

but good try my man
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LordVydrak is not online. LordVydrak
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07 Jul 2015 09:39 PM
Lazia STFU lol you stupid school shooter

you wear your ROBLOX trenchcoats to school and your only friends are your alts on ROBLOX lmao
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HighSparrows is not online. HighSparrows
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07 Jul 2015 09:40 PM
At least i can shoot irl and i can go to a school

Not getting home schooled cus u get bullied lel
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LordVydrak is not online. LordVydrak
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07 Jul 2015 09:43 PM
nah neder what's funny is you expect RAA to dumb down a perfectly fair fort just because they requested changes to your bullcrap fort lmfao

weak asf really shows what kind of clan you're in
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Flammavir is not online. Flammavir
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07 Jul 2015 09:44 PM
actually old kopervich was fair


SALAM.
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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07 Jul 2015 09:45 PM
fw2 is already fair, as is coventry

both forts could have entered war as is, but sas was upset over barrels

i offered him four things in exchange for one, he declined, not my issue
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xDaBubs is not online. xDaBubs
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07 Jul 2015 09:45 PM
"FW2 is known as one of the most bullcrap forts on ROBLOX"


okay no stop

FW2 is literally the definition of balanced

completely even spawns, completely even weapons, and the barrels are completely neutral, as in they can be used the same way by both raiders and defenders and are spawned in at neutral points in the base


on top of that they are almost never used effectively, coming from someone who's fought there in 2 VAK wars, once on VAK's side and once on FC's


there is literally only one advantage FC has at FW2, and it's that they happen to train with bows. however, if you have half a brain you can easily figure out how to estimate where the projectiles will land


end of discussion
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Weaponizing is not online. Weaponizing
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07 Jul 2015 09:46 PM
there is literally only one advantage FC has at FW2, and it's that they happen to train with bows. however, if you have half a brain you can easily figure out how to estimate where the projectiles will land
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there's the mt advantage too
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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07 Jul 2015 09:47 PM
@weap

we actually showed a sf hr (depthz) that it took less than 10 seconds to cross the gap

we also then timed metalsonic (metal started from raider spawn and went to flag) and gooroo (gooroo went from fc spawn and went to flag), and metal was able to beat gooroo to flag by almost 15 seconds (meaning raiders can reach flag faster)
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Noobieh is not online. Noobieh
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07 Jul 2015 09:48 PM
"you wear your ROBLOX trenchcoats to school"

savage
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xDaBubs is not online. xDaBubs
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07 Jul 2015 09:50 PM
what do you mean mountain advantage, both sides can frost bow jump onto the mountains they spawn on and they're at near even levels


if youre implying that FC can do it better then its just because they've practiced it, which isnt unfair
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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07 Jul 2015 09:51 PM
Let me be frank with you, gentlemen. Coventry is not fair, and anyone parroting that claim is deluding themselves. "Fair" implies that neither side possesses an inherent advantage. At Coventry, RAA possesses a distinct spawn advantage. However, Coventry is not excessively difficult to the point that victory is unachievable.

Just because you can win at Coventry doesn't mean it's fair.

Likewise, FW2 isn't necessarily "fair" (granted, the proposed updates would push it far in that direction) but is not an impenetrable bastion. You can win at FW just as you can win at Coventry, provided you use proper tactics.

Honestly, I feel like both sides should make minor concessions to appease one another and be done with it. This flame war is a bit much.
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