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Re: The *actual* truth about sword clans

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kingkendrick141 is not online. kingkendrick141
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05 Jul 2015 10:57 AM
There are a few "gems" like NFC and Skilled Force in the SF community, but for the most part, its pretty lacking. For years now, a lot of sword groups have essentially been traded like commodities(See: SCR, VN, IF, VE, etc). They aren't viewed as groups as much as they are viewed as collectibles for profit. LMaDers with a very minimal ability to lead typically obtain these groups, driven them to crap, and then pass them on to the next bidder. This leaves the larger, more well known sword groups lacking proper, stable leadership and HICOM, quality bases and amenities, and a well disciplined member core. As a result, when people in those member cores decide to go off and make their OWN SFing groups, they lack the necessary knowledge to lead them successfully, and as a result you have a pretty terrible community.
Sure, gun groups have their issues, but it's WAY more often that I see an SF clan do any of the following than a gun clan:
-Admin attack or abuse
-Trade hands for a limited
-Shutdown fort mid raid
-Start incessant, illogical flame wars on C&G(this one is more even but w/e)
-Provide ENDLESS egos across the clan community
-Overall act trashy and rudely to other groups and people for the slightest infractions.

These aren't things I've just heard about, or assume happens commonplace because 1 or 2 well known SF groups do it.
These are things I've witnessed en-masse from the swords community in large. And it has nothing to do with swords themselves, it does have to do with the fact that SF community has allowed people to buy them off. They've sold out, and that is the actual truth.


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Vectic is not online. Vectic
Joined: 18 Dec 2013
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05 Jul 2015 11:01 AM
overall, sword clans aren't fun because of the community and now a days it's boring to fight in only meadows
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Sanctimonialis is not online. Sanctimonialis
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05 Jul 2015 11:02 AM
This is actually legit.



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Vauron is not online. Vauron
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05 Jul 2015 11:02 AM
SCR has settled
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HopelessSoul is not online. HopelessSoul
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05 Jul 2015 11:03 AM
mehhh

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Zactics is not online. Zactics
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05 Jul 2015 11:03 AM
Not all sword clans are like that.
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devTools is online. devTools
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05 Jul 2015 11:03 AM
SCR's trading stops with me.
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RogueRebeI is not online. RogueRebeI
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05 Jul 2015 11:05 AM
The community is dead. There's pretty much only 3 or 4 clans that survive and are decent

Royal Blood
SS
NFC
EXTINCT (debatable)

SCR is trash and rest of the old "top 10" are dead
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kingkendrick141 is not online. kingkendrick141
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05 Jul 2015 11:06 AM
@Dev
OK, thats good. But now you have to recover what changing owners rapidly for over a year has done to SCR. You have to first rebuild an excelling HICOM, not just one that "functions", then you have to build a decent member core, and then you have to stand out as an SF group that doesn't have the typical traits associated with it, but that has traits such as trustable, reasonable, disciplined, yet easy-going, and overall validated and honest. Then, and only then, can you begin fixing its reputation through wars where YOU take the higher ground.
Don't think you're out of the woods yet, you aren't whatsoever.

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Vauron is not online. Vauron
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05 Jul 2015 11:12 AM
SCR is a formidable force which hasn't had the chance to get a suitable challenge @king, we often get declined.

Ariona surrendered during our war term negotiations......
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kingkendrick141 is not online. kingkendrick141
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05 Jul 2015 11:14 AM
That's part of the issue. You guys don't war to have fun, you war to seem superior, to try to put other groups down. Not only is that harmful to the community, but its harmful to SCR as well. You repel people when you stroke your egos like that(consciously or not), they type of people beneficial to clans because of their experience or skills. If you want war, try making it as friendly as possible. You'll be more likely to be accepted from it and you'll be more likely to positively benefit from it as well.


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HopelessSoul is not online. HopelessSoul
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05 Jul 2015 11:15 AM
"The community is dead. There's pretty much only 3 or 4 clans that survive and are decent

Royal Blood
SS
NFC
EXTINCT (debatable)

SCR is trash and rest of the old "top 10" are dead"

>VC
>Oblivion Blade
>TDL
>FL
>FC
>PL

name me the old top 10 clans which are dead too, please

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devTools is online. devTools
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05 Jul 2015 11:20 AM
@king
SCR tries to war. We have declared war on basically every top 20 group, but we get declined due to our past.

@Hope
Please explain how SCR is 'trash' when we had 7 trainings, 1 raid/rally, and 2 defenses on Friday (We took yesterday off except for our 4th of July party that got 30 people to it) and when every event gets 10-40 people. Our AVERAGE people per event is 25, but I mentioned 10-40 because some trainings get very few on holidays and whatnot, then some events just get more than expected.


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HopelessSoul is not online. HopelessSoul
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05 Jul 2015 11:22 AM
devtools re-read everything

i didn't state scr was trash

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xdude52 is not online. xdude52
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05 Jul 2015 11:23 AM
"I didn't state SCR is trash"

"SCR is trash"


Need I say again?




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devTools is online. devTools
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05 Jul 2015 11:24 AM
o ok
then @rog


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xKanadeTachibana is not online. xKanadeTachibana
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05 Jul 2015 11:24 AM
the truth has been spoken

but hau is gonna make a comeback. lel

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HopelessSoul is not online. HopelessSoul
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05 Jul 2015 11:26 AM
xdude you're blind or stupid

re-read everything and you'll realised i copied and pasted someone's post

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xdude52 is not online. xdude52
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05 Jul 2015 11:27 AM
Oh. Didn't see the quotes there.


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kingkendrick141 is not online. kingkendrick141
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06 Jul 2015 08:37 AM
@xKan
Honestly, like, I dig rainway and all, he's a chill guy, but he's the worst of it when it comes to using groups as a commodity. He only cares about HAU and money. Every other group passing through his ownership he tries to profit on and it's helped kill the sword community. He doesn't sell groups to good leaders with a lot of money, he sells them to terrible leaders with more money than the good leaders.


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Rectifying is not online. Rectifying
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06 Jul 2015 08:38 AM
"There are a few "gems" like NFC"

LOL YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T UNDERSTAND SWORD CLANS
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Rectifying is not online. Rectifying
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06 Jul 2015 08:41 AM
Meadows is fun

if you don't stink at it :D
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kingkendrick141 is not online. kingkendrick141
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06 Jul 2015 08:41 AM
Honestly, NFC is one of the very few good SF clans. Ezaiahs keeps it out of trouble, its got a good reputation, its retained good activity for some 4+ years now, and it's got a fun fort with relatively fair amenities. Its HRs are competent and don't abuse their power, and they've got a loyal member core not recruited by illegitimate methods.
Disregarding skill with swords and perhaps publicity, NFC is, I daresay, the best SF clan still out there.

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Rectifying is not online. Rectifying
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06 Jul 2015 08:43 AM
nfc added a crossbow to a sword only fort

the hrs there are idiots who maybe can "run" the group internally, but externally they make it look like crap

ez is probably the worst nfc leader tbh
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kingkendrick141 is not online. kingkendrick141
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06 Jul 2015 08:44 AM
And it's still better than 99% of the sword clans out there.
You can't compare it to gun groups, then it looks bad. But compared to other sword groups? It's a gem.


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