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Re: FilteringEnabled safe?

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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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02 Jul 2015 03:02 AM
I've heard rumors that exploiters have figured out ways to get around it but I haven't actually seen anyone do it.
Does anyone else know anything on the topic?
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LongKillKreations is not online. LongKillKreations
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02 Jul 2015 03:04 AM
What do you mean by "get around it"? I image it's very easy to get past someone's FE system that trusts 100% of data client sends
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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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02 Jul 2015 03:35 AM
Right should have specified that, by around it I meant that they can force replication from their client to the server which is what it shouldn't allow.
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ganger800 is not online. ganger800
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02 Jul 2015 03:37 AM
no that is not possible
it is possible to write unsafe code while using FE

you shouldn't trust client data and only send your changes from the client to the server
(like player5 picked up an item)
and you shouldn't send: this is the inventory of player5, have fun server
because then your game is still easy to exploit
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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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02 Jul 2015 03:46 AM
@ganger800

"no that is not possible"

Source?
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nQqzRYVpIKA5jLP is not online. nQqzRYVpIKA5jLP
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02 Jul 2015 04:38 AM
Where is your "source" for this being possible? How would it even be possible? The server literally denies changes from the client, how could they get around that? Just leave, kid.
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Septamology is not online. Septamology
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02 Jul 2015 04:41 AM
it literally breaks everything in the server

don't bother using it


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nQqzRYVpIKA5jLP is not online. nQqzRYVpIKA5jLP
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02 Jul 2015 04:42 AM
idiot above
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Septamology is not online. Septamology
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02 Jul 2015 04:43 AM
thanks bud


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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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02 Jul 2015 05:06 AM
@nQqzRYVpIKA5jLP

"The server literally denies changes from the client"

Yes that's how it appears to and should work, who says it does though?
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epicbreaker is not online. epicbreaker
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02 Jul 2015 05:09 AM
They are called "rumours" for a reason..
http://wiki.roblox.com/index.php?title=Security#FilteringEnabled
http://wiki.roblox.com/index.php?title=API:Class/Workspace/FilteringEnabled
http://wiki.roblox.com/index.php?title=FilteringEnabled_with_the_Client-Server_Model
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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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02 Jul 2015 05:23 AM
@epicbreaker

Right do you want me to link you to a wikipedia article on how to type on your keyboard because that would have about the same level of relevance as you posting those links compared to the thread topic

This is a discussion on whether or not it is possible to get around it not debating it's functionality
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epicbreaker is not online. epicbreaker
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02 Jul 2015 05:27 AM
But thats the thing, this thread is pointless.

Normal scripts don't work in a local environment, and the only possible modifications are done client side using a LocalScript. If your place is scripted extremely poorly, it's your own fault for allowing this sort of thing to happen. You should always verify the data on the server.
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ganger800 is not online. ganger800
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02 Jul 2015 05:29 AM
@Ben since it looks like you have no idea what you are talking about, epic gave some information
if he didn't do it, I probably would have done the same

since you don't give any example of why it doesn't work and ask us to provide explanation
I think you should start with giving a working example since you started the topic
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nQqzRYVpIKA5jLP is not online. nQqzRYVpIKA5jLP
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02 Jul 2015 05:40 AM
I'm not sure if you're trolling or just stupid. Roblox would have to have insane brain damage to just stop changes on the client, and there is even a way you can test this.

1. Turn on PrintFilters in Studio settings.
2. Start a test server and player.
3. In the SERVER window create a new instance inside the player's PlayerGui.
4. In the CLIENT window delete that instance.

You'll notice that the client doesn't print that the change isn't replicated. However, if you look at the server window, you'll notice that it prints that it did stop the change.

Now get out.
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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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02 Jul 2015 05:41 AM
Working example: Character movement, checkmate atheists
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ixMaster is not online. ixMaster
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02 Jul 2015 05:43 AM
I'd like to see someone 'bypass' FilteringEnabled, I highly doubt that they could do it.
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nQqzRYVpIKA5jLP is not online. nQqzRYVpIKA5jLP
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02 Jul 2015 05:44 AM
Only datamodel changes are stopped by the filter. Physics aren't stopped, although you will be able to control this with the release of the new NetworkAPI.
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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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02 Jul 2015 05:44 AM
ITT: "Heh it works this way because the wiki says so and i just need to prove that im a smartass"

This thread is not for you, you have nothing to contribute to it, don't post.
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nQqzRYVpIKA5jLP is not online. nQqzRYVpIKA5jLP
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02 Jul 2015 05:52 AM
Warning:

This thread is not for you if you posses a brain, even if it is extremely limited in capability. Everyone else should now leave. Sorry, OP, but nobody else meets this requirement, so you'll have to remain here alone.
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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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02 Jul 2015 06:27 AM
Thank god you can afford to be this hostile on an alt with an edgy name, probably something to put on your resume
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Fedorakid is not online. Fedorakid
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02 Jul 2015 06:43 AM
Get out Ben, so far you've made only pointless threads here.
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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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02 Jul 2015 06:53 AM
@Fedorakid

You are the type to join in on others talking crap without ever actually contributing ANYTHING WHATSOEVER. I mean in my opinion that's pretty ridiculous but I guess you have found a way to live with it.
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Fedorakid is not online. Fedorakid
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02 Jul 2015 06:55 AM
"you are the type"

Amazing you can judge my personality with one comment,

also I hope you begin to realize most of us think this thread is dumb.

Out.
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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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02 Jul 2015 06:58 AM
No I faintly remember your name from a previous thread of mine where you did exactly the same, then I checked your post history which confirmed my suspicions.

"also I hope you begin to realize most of us think this thread is dumb."

"us"

So you speak for the entire section now? Wow exclusive Scripters club member, should probably put that on your resume.
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