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Re: Why only Vaktus or Pspjohn1 could pull off BTMpire 2.0:

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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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02 Jul 2015 03:21 AM
All right, if you've been on C&G lately, more and more talk of BTMpire and whether it could be repeated have flared up (again....). A lot of people believe they can repeat what BTM did. Those people are either incredibly huge egotists who inflate their value too much, or are extremely dedicated trolls. I would hope the majority fit in to the latter section, but, sadly, they don't.

REALISTICALLY, the only people who could pull off another BTMpire right now, are the aforementioned people, Vaktus and Pspjohn1. So, I'll list why they can do it and you can't:

1) Funds:

Vaktus and Pspjohn1 are rich. Not just rich, but mega rich. Both of them always get a healthy stream of robux and tix everyday, and that won't stop any time soon. They are both richer than what Bobatheman ever was, and creating an empire of their own wouldn't seriously dent their purse strings, unlike basically everyone else in clans today.

They can easily buy 5-10 good or decent clans and build up an empire from there without impacting their budget too much. Throw in other costs, such as devs, ads and more, and they'll still be financially healthy. So, you already fall behind in one regard.


2) Developers:

Little known fact, BTMpire were never highly developed in terms of tech, GFX or practically anything. Why people rant about getting devs easily show how little they know about how the BTMpire actually worked and why they'd suck ass attempting to copy it. Literally anyone who's anyone in the clan world can get devs easily.

It's not an achievement and if you think it is you're stuck in 2010. The BTMpire thrived off of these things: a strong base clan (APN), extreme hype created by a highly egotistical (and intelligent) leader and warring clans like clockwork. The only people who have followed steps similar to that, are John and Vaktus. Everyone else fails in one regard or another.


3) Supporter Base:

BTM's core of supporters were a bunch of highly intelligent, hugely influential and forever loyal friends. Reaven, Battleskar02, DoomKnight and SunTzu8 were his main core. No other leaders bar John or Vaktus have supporter bases like that. And for all the people laughing about associating John with intelligence, it's obvious you don't know him at all. These 2 have the people capable, intelligent and dedicated enough to lead clans in an empire if they decided to make one. No one else has that sort of supporter base.


there are more but wordwall so i'm going to stop. anyway, i hope you all enjoyed this and get the though of making another empire clan would work, unless you're vaktus or pspjohn1.
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Killicide is not online. Killicide
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02 Jul 2015 03:22 AM
tl;dr

gg wasted your time on an argument noone cares about or will read at 4:20am

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sel200 is not online. sel200
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02 Jul 2015 03:22 AM
All of FCs Frostlords+All of Rats Hrs could pull that off


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02 Jul 2015 03:23 AM
Shut Your Dumb Idiot Stupid Only Ball Sack Eating Mouth. Ball Sack Eaters Should Be Thrown Into The Nigerian Sack Of Urinals And Ball Sacks.

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02 Jul 2015 03:23 AM
interesting

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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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02 Jul 2015 03:27 AM
"All of FCs Frostlords+All of Rats Hrs could pull that off"

bahahahahaha this is too good
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Ghosty2Spooks is not online. Ghosty2Spooks
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02 Jul 2015 03:29 AM
"All of FCs Frostlords+All of Rats Hrs could pull that off"
This will fail simply because of the fact that I am not a Frost Lord, but a Council Elder...HMPF
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SavageBurst is not online. SavageBurst
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02 Jul 2015 03:30 AM
You would need extreme loyalty from your members in order for them to stick with the main empire and not want to split, which is was both Vaktus and Psp can provide. You would need great leadership for all these clans, which Vaktus again can provide but I'm not sure about John. They both have the funds and tech.
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Brizingers is not online. Brizingers
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02 Jul 2015 03:31 AM
It's to late at night to read all of this.
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Allusia is not online. Allusia
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02 Jul 2015 03:31 AM
psp was a revolutionary and great clan leader people should praise him more highly lol


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assasinlord5 is not online. assasinlord5
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02 Jul 2015 03:31 AM
FC, no. RAT, yes RAT is currently the most active clan and are mega-rich, psp couldn't pull off anything at this point and I don't think he wants to try.
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Allusia is not online. Allusia
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02 Jul 2015 03:33 AM
people praise fc so highly for their community when it's absolute meme cancer because of some kids that think browing 4chan makes them cool and epic


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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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02 Jul 2015 03:34 AM
"You would need extreme loyalty from your members in order for them to stick with the main empire and not want to split, which is was both Vaktus and Psp can provide. You would need great leadership for all these clans, which Vaktus again can provide but I'm not sure about John. They both have the funds and tech."

John was the better version of Boba tbh. He is the most underrated leader of all time. I want to see someone make a clan like he did. Other than that you're spot on.

"psp couldn't pull off anything at this point and I don't think he wants to try."

If John wanted to try, he'd basically be able to build up any sort of clan he felt like.
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Ghosty2Spooks is not online. Ghosty2Spooks
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02 Jul 2015 03:35 AM
but on a more serious note, i don't think a second BTMpire could really be started.


for one, for whatever reason, a good amount of people in popular groups and on c&g now seem to look down on alliances for whatever reason, and would definitely react negatively to a second coming of the BTMpire.


two, ego. each clan involved would probably want to be the main group like APN was. not only that, there would probably just be too much in fighting in general between the clans involved
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Allusia is not online. Allusia
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02 Jul 2015 03:36 AM
not if the groups in the empire already had an active and loyal community


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assasinlord5 is not online. assasinlord5
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02 Jul 2015 03:36 AM
he can build anything he wants, but it'll fall down. anything he makes will be short-term, john's era is long gone.
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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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02 Jul 2015 03:36 AM
"for one, for whatever reason, a good amount of people in popular groups and on c&g now seem to look down on alliances for whatever reason, and would definitely react negatively to a second coming of the BTMpire."

um, you do realize boba owned the clans right and just put his officers in charge?

"two, ego. each clan involved would probably want to be the main group like APN was. not only that, there would probably just be too much in fighting in general between the clans involved"

the leader of an empire like btmpire would own all the clans and put people in charge. that's how btmpire worked in the most simplest terms possible.




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Allusia is not online. Allusia
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02 Jul 2015 03:37 AM
i know dozens of people including myself that would join psp's new clan if he ever made one


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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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02 Jul 2015 03:38 AM
"he can build anything he wants, but it'll fall down. anything he makes will be short-term, john's era is long gone."

No it won't. John's one of those people that, unless it's in 20 years and clans are full on dead, his era will always be here. It's not long gone by a longshot.
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assasinlord5 is not online. assasinlord5
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02 Jul 2015 03:38 AM
anything john makes would be opposed by ned and the brotherhood.
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Spacetoad is not online. Spacetoad
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02 Jul 2015 03:39 AM
yeah its true BTMpire would have no one to war
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Allusia is not online. Allusia
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02 Jul 2015 03:41 AM
lol yea the great no life and the fellowship of the mentally challenged jc rejects


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assasinlord5 is not online. assasinlord5
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02 Jul 2015 03:45 AM
cant tell if ur a random tryhard or some raging ex-jc that used to follow secula or someone equally bad.
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Allusia is not online. Allusia
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02 Jul 2015 03:48 AM
"cant tell if ur a random tryhard or some raging ex-jc that used to follow secula or someone equally bad"

"tryhard"

speaking of tryhards how's the brotherhood XDDDD

and no lol secula was a dumbass if anything i followed the guy that led RG when it was a stacked final battle team in 2013


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Pyrante is not online. Pyrante
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02 Jul 2015 03:51 AM
normally I would say TL;DR
But.... I took the time to read this.
And I regret it.
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