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keeltoll3456 is not online. keeltoll3456
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01 Jul 2015 02:10 PM
While the majority of the backlash from this year's Summer Games has come from the fact that most users aren't interested in the theme, I am instead a little worried that the concept of sponsorship events is working against the ROBLOX admins' goal of providing engaging games for every audience.

Including third-party material within ROBLOX is nothing new, and they haven't been in the background; users openly raged about featuring Disney XD's Zeke and Luther television show being the focus of the then-original Skate Park genre, and even more angry when Transformers were the theme to build in one of the long-dead Contests.
But after the admins tried including more interaction with the partners they joined with (a la The Three Stooges Brickbattle and The Boxtrolls Racing), although the admins presented sponsorships as being relatively exciting and fresh, the players made these occurrences fade into obscurity. Nobody even drummed up the motivation to threaten quitting the site over them. [1]

The recent integration of sponsorships within the "DEVents" that were becoming popular with the userbase has been a clever way of finally generating the best "traffic" towards the material that the admins are trying to market. Featuring promotions in recognizable games by other users, rather than the admins' original (and sometimes flawed) games guarantees that they'll be seen, and from a business standpoint, that's the right idea!

But my skepticism isn't with the corporate strategy or the products themselves - *putting promotional material in developer-generated games is giving the wrong idea of how game-creation should exist, and be presented*.

I levy my reasoning in a few points, with the first and MOST IMPORTANT being:

1.) The admins should not be asking developers to represent a company's products within the developer's property (several exclamation points here).
Games should be games, and not commercials. Entwining developers to sponsorships is literally asking a teenager to hold up a billboard. If a person, who let's say doesn't know about ROBLOX's existence, wants to make a game for a corporation, then they walk up to the front desk of Cartoon Network's studios and ask if they can create a Flash game for kids to play on the channel's website. To rephrase what I mean, I think it's not only laziness that plays into the admins deferring to their users to handle these events, but poor practice to encourage such representation, because it serves as nothing more significant than that nameless game creator who's been bound by Cartoon Network to make mediocre games for a thankless job. I personally can't imagine a more duller fate for someone who needs to have their spirit for creativity kept alive.

2.) The community will begin and continue to harbor a dislike for game developers for their participation in sponsorship events.
Developer events were thought of partly because the community wanted the admins to "get it right" and let other users capture the fun they wanted to have during the holidays. Not only has it historically been unsuccessful (Siege of Quebec, etc. [2]), it's hard to ignore the complaints around the forums that users think the developers are only in this for the money. Developers are supposed to be our champions of quality control and entertainment, and their inclusion in sponsorships is only worsening their definition to being considered as sellouts.

I don't want to start getting redundant and start stating the obvious of what other users are saying, like that sponsorships are killing the excitement of events, because I'm not trying to start some sort of riot and get people to leave the site en masse. We should be aware of these issues and unless this counterproductive direction is intentional, these points need to be addressed.

I welcome your feedback for I made this thread in the hopes that I find I'm not the only individual who isn't pounding on his keyboard like he's clinically insane because a couple yellow blobs are going to be taking up the advertisement space for a few weeks.

Discuss.
-keeltoll3456


[1] - Thinking about it, actually, yes, there were indeed people that wanted to quit from these little sponsorships, however everyone else on the forums laughed them off and told them they were overreacting. Don't go pretending you weren't one of those apologists at some point. :)
[2] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxibhYNVnpU
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benzed is not online. benzed
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01 Jul 2015 02:11 PM
I just wish they'd drop it with the minions.
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keeltoll3456 is not online. keeltoll3456
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01 Jul 2015 02:13 PM
It was really hard to type this with a stack of them staring at me in a skyscraper ad the entire time
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0nesh0t is online. 0nesh0t
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01 Jul 2015 02:15 PM
this of course will also be ignored
they're making money. the fact that there is a target audience choice toward kids and the bs they watch these days, it's like a dream come true for them.
like you said, there hasn't been anything done yet that was extreme, so i'm pretty sure they're just waiting for something like that to occur before they cancel out devents

Checkmate.
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Suolatikku is not online. Suolatikku
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01 Jul 2015 02:15 PM
^you should have just made a tl;dr version only
no one will read this
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01 Jul 2015 02:16 PM
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keeltoll3456 is not online. keeltoll3456
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01 Jul 2015 02:21 PM
I'm pleasantly surprised a lot of these complaint threads are still alive but that just means that mine is falling away
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TheCrostist is not online. TheCrostist
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01 Jul 2015 02:25 PM
This is great. Too bad the mods will either ignore it or delete it.
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keeltoll3456 is not online. keeltoll3456
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01 Jul 2015 02:44 PM
Stayin alive
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HawaiianTrader is not online. HawaiianTrader
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01 Jul 2015 02:46 PM
this is what the read button on roblox+ is for lol
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keeltoll3456 is not online. keeltoll3456
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01 Jul 2015 06:52 PM
test
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dizzydragon121 is not online. dizzydragon121
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01 Jul 2015 06:53 PM
oh
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jpokemon is not online. jpokemon
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01 Jul 2015 06:55 PM
This one is an actually a legit arguement
tracking and bumping


desk
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godstriker4 is not online. godstriker4
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01 Jul 2015 06:56 PM
Just the fact that you put the effort in to make a thread as long as this with or without the knowledge that no one will care is just phenomenal. I congratulate you. Honestly I do. We need more robloxians that are willing to write this much when they make a suggestion in Suggestions and Ideas. In any case, keep up the good work.
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IAmTheOneWhoKnocks is not online. IAmTheOneWhoKnocks
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01 Jul 2015 06:57 PM
OP uses opinion!
It's not very effective.
Staff use ignore!
Critical Hit!
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keeltoll3456 is not online. keeltoll3456
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01 Jul 2015 06:57 PM
"Just the fact that you put the effort in to make a thread as long as this with or without the knowledge that no one will care is just phenomenal."

And yet half the people in ATR will still say I'm only here just to crappost and boost my post count
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godstriker4 is not online. godstriker4
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01 Jul 2015 06:58 PM
"Top 100 Poster"
I doubt you're crap posting anything.
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Shadowfan682 is not online. Shadowfan682
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01 Jul 2015 07:03 PM
Your opinion was nice!
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MonsterLuck is not online. MonsterLuck
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01 Jul 2015 07:04 PM
Good argument... Really nothing else to say about this other than that I hope the ROBLOX admins actually acknowledge this.

I CAN'T HEAR YOU! YOU'RE SCREAMING TOO LOUD!
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keeltoll3456 is not online. keeltoll3456
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01 Jul 2015 07:12 PM
Please
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alexshi is online. alexshi
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02 Jul 2015 11:29 AM
Agree


Take an awesome model: http://www.roblox.com/AER-9-Laser-Rifle-item?id=260527064
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cardboardalpaca is not online. cardboardalpaca
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02 Jul 2015 11:31 AM
starting to get some respect for OP
everytime i see them post it's something good

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awesomeguy219 is not online. awesomeguy219
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02 Jul 2015 11:38 AM
I agree with everything you said OP.
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keeltoll3456 is not online. keeltoll3456
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04 Jul 2015 01:02 AM
reviving this again
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mandude4253 is not online. mandude4253
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04 Jul 2015 01:04 AM
You see the problem with ROBLOX is that it has too much diversity. (say what you want about that)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bPeKqSqm5w
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