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| 30 Jun 2015 03:11 PM |
I wrote this, because maybe I can change someones world perspective. A world perspective, is how you see the world socially. Are you against the new laws on marriage? Someone who would disagree with that probably has a different world perspective. Almost like republicans and democrats, only at a broader and more in depth level.
I posted in one of my threads about something similar to this, but since it started to stray away from the original topic, I began this thread to allow no confusion. Ignore this paragraph if you haven't seen it.
Below may be a bit of reading, but I'll try to hold your attention. I'm not perfect, and most people will probably overlook it, but just remember that if you click out of this thread without reading what I'm going to say, you're going to be wondering a lot about what was said, and may not get the opportunity to read it if it was deleted. It's up to you!
Below, I'm going to post an analogy.
The subcultures in my opinion don't need to exist at all. Sub cultures like, 'lazy people', 'murderers', 'satanic worshipers', 'terrorists', 'gothic' etc. I put them all in the same category because all of them don't really *need* to exist. What I mean when I say they 'don't really need to exist' is the point that these people collectively gather together and make their own emotional stability even worse. This isn't only bad for those who are already dealing with these chronological mishaps, but also for those who don't have the self-awareness to guide themselves away from these groups.
For example, John (A fictional character I just made up) is about 13 years old, and he doesn't truly know who he is yet. He doesn't know his personality to a tee, he is curious about what his parents warn him about (drugs, smoking etc.) and these thoughts linger on while his self-awareness and maturity levels continue to grow with him, keep this in mind.
John has been becoming depressed over a recent death in his family, (his mother). John realizes that life needs to continue on, and that he needs to face the fact that he will never see his mom again. John loves music, at school, he is one of the most talented band members and his passion and motivation for music allows for him to improve himself quickly. His teachers are impressed and one day, his friend Will (who is also in band) said something about his playing. "John, you're really good. You're better than most of the students here!" A few other friends nod in agreement. John gains confidence in himself and it begins to grow also.
John's life, despite his mothers death, has been going well. John regains his happiness, and he lives his life with a fond memory of his mother, and a close relationship with his dad. He pursues his musical career, and ends up becoming one of the greatest musicians of all time. He not only is one of the most talented musicians in the world, but he uses his music to inspire people, motivate people, and encourage people to do the same with their life and overcome their own problems and lifelong obstacles.
What I showed you was a perfect example of how someone can overcome their own emotional obstacles and allow themselves to enjoy a passionate and happy life, it's completely natural. But, let's bring the realm of sub-cultural differences and change things around in John's life right after his mother died. He was still involved in band. A gothic gang at John's school noticed John wiping the small tears away from his face that were caused by the recent news of his mothers death. Each of them walked over to John and asked what was wrong. John explained to them his situation, and told them how it had been hard for him to deal with it because his mother was someone who he had looked up to greatly. The emo kids invite him to a meeting later at night in the playground, where he was told they would help him.
Around 11:00 pm at night, John snuck outside and met everyone at the playground. They 'helped him' by telling him that he could cut, harm himself to get rid of the pain he's feeling. They told him that he can write sad stories and poems in a journal that would help him overcome his pain. Fast forward a few years -- John is addicted to harming himself, and still cannot overcome his emotional pains without doing so. He is still friends with the emo kids, and still talks to them on a regular basis, but no longer talks to anyone else. John feels like he is worthless, like he can't do anything, and his self-awareness and maturity grow toward an emotional basis, rather than a natural one, causing a clinical depression. John no longer plays in the band, because he is no longer able to sustain the confidence and motivation he used to have. John hung himself on the playground swings. John is 13.
It is painful for me to see this happen to people. It literally hurts me. Maybe that is just my personality, but I know friends, family, people on the news, local newspapers etc. that have had a very similar story. This happens everyday, and it is growing. The scary thing for me however is that 'emo kids' is just one sub culture that can harm peoples lives, and that I can't see any good coming from. Replace John's story with lazy people, terrorists, or maybe serial killers. Replace his life with drug addicts.
What would his life be like then? What if your kid had a similar story?
If I said I was against emo people, I would get hateful comments on my post, and probably some people wondering how I could be against a group of people who want to live their lives a different way. If I said I was against terrorist, I would probably have another outcome. Why is this the case? It's because of world perspectives, and in my own personal world perspective, I find them to be very similar.
Thoughts? |
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| 30 Jun 2015 03:15 PM |
| I'll bump this to give more people a chance to read this. |
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| 30 Jun 2015 03:18 PM |
TL;DR
R.I.P OP, Drowned in the mainstream |
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| 30 Jun 2015 03:20 PM |
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Probably, it wouldn't surprise me. |
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| 30 Jun 2015 03:21 PM |
Could you try to change my world perspective in less than 50000 words?
R.I.P OP, Drowned in the mainstream |
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| 30 Jun 2015 03:22 PM |
Geez, but my thoughts: War, death, murder, short times of happiness.
Guardian of OT|There is a dog on my head. |
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| 30 Jun 2015 03:23 PM |
| holy tl;dr you thought i was reading this |
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| 30 Jun 2015 03:24 PM |
Tldr read like the first paragraph about John and I'm guessing he does drugs but doesn't know it's wrong so does that make it bad
That wasn't a question I'm just guessing that what this was about
summarize plz |
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| 30 Jun 2015 03:27 PM |
| Shrugs it's up to you to read it. |
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| 30 Jun 2015 03:31 PM |
| That's actually a really good point, I still feel like people should be able to express themselves in any way that they would like to, but not to the point where that becomes unhealthy, as you said. It's really hard to find the right balance between "EVERYBODY SHOULD CONFORM" and "EVERYBODY SHOULD BE GROUPED UP", both of them have a lot of advantages and a lot of disadvantages. I know my friend is part of my school's "emo" group, that's gotten to the point where a lot of people tend to avoid him just because of that, and he's honestly one of the nicest people I know. |
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| 30 Jun 2015 03:34 PM |
OK EVERYONE I READ IT FOR YOU ALL
It's a story about a boy named john and his mom dies and he turns sad but he hangs out with the right crowd and he over comes he depression
Then there is an alternate universe where the same thing happens but John hangs out with emo people and they tell him to cut himself to feel better and he eventually hangs himself
Idk what op is trying to prove though |
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| 30 Jun 2015 03:38 PM |
@Cool
Exactly.
Isn't life complicated? |
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| 30 Jun 2015 03:40 PM |
"Idk what op is trying to prove though"
I think he's just trying to say we separate people into groups to the point where it's unhealthy. In the case of John he had these people encouraging him to resort to cutting instead of using his talents, and by the time he was part of this group a lot of other people probably wouldn't accept him. The popular people would probably look down on and avoid the "emo" group and he wouldn't have the positive influence that he could have had, so he was just stuck in that loop of negativity which is hard to break out of. |
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| 30 Jun 2015 03:43 PM |
@Cool
I think it stems from wanting to be like other people, which creates sub-cultural groups. When these groups get passionate about what they do (it could be anything), from my observation they tend to become harmful to not only themselves but to other people. So in my opinion, I think we should all choose to be unique in some way, and not be succumb to sub-cultural groups. |
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| 30 Jun 2015 03:44 PM |
different situation but i was there though
maybe I got lucky |
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| 30 Jun 2015 03:48 PM |
I'm not proving anything, only sharing. My thoughts are my thoughts, and it's up to you if you want to have the same ones as well.
These are my thoughts;
1. Sub-Cultural groups are unhealthy. (It's unhealthy to be emo, etc etc)
2. Be unique, don't limit yourself to someone else's standing. (Stop trying to be like other people)
3. "They can live the life they want. As long as they are happy. It does not matter." is a dangerous statement IMO.
To name a few. There's more but I would have to go more in depth and my fingers hurt from typing so much. |
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| 30 Jun 2015 03:49 PM |
@scream
What do you mean? Can you elaborate? |
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| 30 Jun 2015 03:53 PM |
i was sad and I was around the emo community because it was nice to hang around other people who were sad (I know that sounds bad lol)
I turned to Christianity and something happened during that time and now I hang out with all types of "groups" including the hoodlums lol
however
I do not let these people influence me and I do not spend all my time with them, for spending a lot of time with people I made my own group of people |
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| 30 Jun 2015 03:57 PM |
@screamin
I know what you mean. I know this is off-topic but I don't understand why someone would want to be an atheist. I'm not 'against' it, I'm just not able to understand why. Even if I didn't believe in God, why would I want to sacrifice my hope and faith in everything? At least by pretending to believe I would have some essence and meaning in my life.
And I also know what you mean about hanging around hoodlums. I mean, half of my friends do drugs and smoke, but I'm not affected by it. I think once you've gained enough confidence and self-awareness you can start hanging around these people without getting affected. |
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| 30 Jun 2015 04:06 PM |
nice post, made me think a bit.
"I don't understand why someone would want to be an atheist"
yeah a lot of people are religious just to be comforted by the idea that this loving god is always watching you. the reason i'm an atheist is because i'd rather know the truth than lie to myself, even if it makes me unhappy, although it doesn't particularly bother me. |
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