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Re: Marriage isn't a right, it's a social institution

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LordThaller is not online. LordThaller
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28 Jun 2015 04:25 PM
Because marriage isn't a civil right, the state has the authority [not the federal government] to make laws concerning marriage. It is the state's job and the state alone.

Amendment X:The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

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spydig is not online. spydig
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28 Jun 2015 04:26 PM
Too late now; The Supreme Court already made a decision.

Winning since 1776.
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Groundskeeper is not online. Groundskeeper
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28 Jun 2015 04:26 PM
I don't agree with how it was legalized but I agree with its legalization.
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MaskedClaus is not online. MaskedClaus
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28 Jun 2015 04:28 PM
you already lost an argument about this last night

i dont know why you keep trying
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masterchief1339 is not online. masterchief1339
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28 Jun 2015 04:28 PM
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Catzilla99 is not online. Catzilla99
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28 Jun 2015 04:28 PM
but the supreme court is supposed to have INFINITE POWEEEERRRR so do not think that the normal congress rules apply to it

it's its own little island
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paylay is not online. paylay
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28 Jun 2015 04:30 PM
Supreme court made the decision though.

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Groundskeeper is not online. Groundskeeper
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28 Jun 2015 04:31 PM
"It needed to be legalized, but the way that happened, it makes me wonder if the government is getting to much power."

Bingo amigo.
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LordThaller is not online. LordThaller
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28 Jun 2015 04:32 PM
Claus, I refuted all of your points yesterday, lol
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MaskedClaus is not online. MaskedClaus
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28 Jun 2015 04:33 PM
until you abandoned the thread after strawmanning me for a whole page lol
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paylay is not online. paylay
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28 Jun 2015 04:34 PM
"Claus, I refuted all of your points yesterday, lol"

Really doesn't matter...
The decision is made.

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LordThaller is not online. LordThaller
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28 Jun 2015 04:35 PM
You said it yourself, that marriage is a right.
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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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28 Jun 2015 04:35 PM
I don't agree how it was legalized or its legalization
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BeIiall is not online. BeIiall
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28 Jun 2015 04:36 PM

There is no such thing as "rights"

They are simply made up words people invented to feel they had the "right" to defend themselves when really there is nothing inherently wrong with killing.

Human "rights", given to humans by humans for humans. They are not rights.

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MaskedClaus is not online. MaskedClaus
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28 Jun 2015 04:36 PM
actually, i kept saying that it was a privilege (which is also what the supreme court had decided) for the majority of the thread

you kept claiming that i thought it was a right, and making strawman arguments based on that

only once did i say it was a right, and that was closer to the end of the first page (and i corrected myself right afterwards)
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paylay is not online. paylay
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28 Jun 2015 04:36 PM
"I don't agree how it was legalized or its legalization"

Basically saying he hates people.

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28 Jun 2015 04:38 PM
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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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28 Jun 2015 04:39 PM
"Basically saying he hates people."

no it's not
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LordThaller is not online. LordThaller
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28 Jun 2015 04:40 PM
Marriage is not legally defined in the constitution. Marriage can be defined as a union strictly between a man and a woman. This law doesn't discriminate at all because h0m0s3xuals can marry someone of the different s 3 x as well and receive the same benefits.
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Groundskeeper is not online. Groundskeeper
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28 Jun 2015 04:40 PM
What's wrong with letting them marry? Prind12 convinced me that barring them from hospital visitation rights and certain government sanctions (I don't know the exact words) was a morally right thing to support. And that's probably the only time I ever agreed with him on anything.

If it's because of Christian values, well, it doesn't change what God thinks, no matter what they call it. I think it actually indirectly insults God to say that it becoming legal would change anything.
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paylay is not online. paylay
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28 Jun 2015 04:40 PM
"no it's not"
Yeah pretty much

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BeIiall is not online. BeIiall
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28 Jun 2015 04:40 PM

@Master, I am simply pointing out that humans have no intrinsic rights to anything, we just made up everything our society revolves around, morality, laws, rights etc.

No one has a universally given right to do anything, they can just do it.

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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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28 Jun 2015 04:41 PM
"Yeah pretty much"

no not at all
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Groundskeeper is not online. Groundskeeper
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28 Jun 2015 04:41 PM
"was a morally *wrong thing to support."

WHOOPS.
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MaskedClaus is not online. MaskedClaus
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28 Jun 2015 04:41 PM
except the definition of marriage has changed over time, and it's considered (and has been considered) a privilege that american citizens has

which means it's covered in the 14th amendment
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