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Zapolean is not online. Zapolean
Joined: 05 Apr 2012
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25 Jun 2015 10:34 PM
what does preflooding mean and how can you raid without doing that?


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joeyjoj is not online. joeyjoj
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25 Jun 2015 10:34 PM
my thoughts exactly, that's how you raid. Take the maximum number of raiders you can get, why would you do otherwise?
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Seviro is not online. Seviro
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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25 Jun 2015 10:34 PM
Message them beforehand and pre-plan a raid.
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kinggaming is not online. kinggaming
Joined: 06 Feb 2012
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25 Jun 2015 10:35 PM
You message 'we're raiding in 10 mins' so they can actually defend and not be empty server raided
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Zapolean is not online. Zapolean
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25 Jun 2015 10:36 PM
but sev not only does that take too much time and pointless work into raiding you're not even the people im looking for an answer. i want to hear from the people who actually do this.


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Killicide is not online. Killicide
Joined: 08 May 2010
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25 Jun 2015 10:36 PM
i dont like being randomly told while i am doing something that there are 24 raiders at my base waiting for me to bring 6 people to come and fight a raid that has a pre-determined outcome

no ragrets


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chanlison is not online. chanlison
Joined: 24 Sep 2009
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25 Jun 2015 10:37 PM
i dont get why people dont like preflooding

if its a problem, you increase the official count, and decrease the server limit
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Zapolean is not online. Zapolean
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25 Jun 2015 10:37 PM
"You message 'we're raiding in 10 mins' so they can actually defend and not be empty server raided"
but there is nothing wrong with going in and leaving space for them to defend. i dont consider going into a server and just waiting at spawn a ESR. anyway messaging will only result in them flooding the server so you cant even raid.


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Zapolean is not online. Zapolean
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25 Jun 2015 10:38 PM
"i dont like being randomly told while i am doing something that there are 24 raiders at my base waiting for me to bring 6 people to come and fight a raid that has a pre-determined outcome"
if you can't win with the minimum amount of numbers you have for official why not bring it up then?


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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
Joined: 24 Sep 2011
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25 Jun 2015 10:39 PM
If your base depends on numbers to win then you have a problem anyway lol.

No preflooding rules are for bad clans.
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Blackpig72 is not online. Blackpig72
Joined: 17 May 2010
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25 Jun 2015 10:40 PM
people will only ESR because it's easy

server hopping is such an issue already, being fine with ESRing would make it even worse
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Killicide is not online. Killicide
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25 Jun 2015 10:41 PM
"if you can't win with the minimum amount of numbers you have for official why not bring it up then?"

our base is a fair base, meaning defenders and raiders have an equal opportunity to win

the only homefield advantage we have is that we know our base

if i raise the needed minimum defenders, then we can never have battles with small clans because itll require a massive amount of us to to be there and defend

it will take forever to wait for a server to become official

and it's just a cowardly rule, needing a ton of defenders

my policy is that if you can give us 10 minutes to get ready then it's fair game regardless of how many each side has

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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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25 Jun 2015 10:41 PM
You can't ESR if your terminal/raid system doesn't active unless there is the proper number defenders there.

Otherwise you should really consider developing your clan lol.
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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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25 Jun 2015 10:42 PM
activate*
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Blackpig72 is not online. Blackpig72
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25 Jun 2015 10:42 PM
yes kill
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Zapolean is not online. Zapolean
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25 Jun 2015 10:42 PM
"people will only ESR because it's easy"
if you have problems with people going in and capture the objective before there is the the official amount of people you should probably make a script to not allow that and a respawn all script once official. if you can't get a script for this then man you're waaaaaaaaaaaaaay behind


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GalsianKingLord is not online. GalsianKingLord
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25 Jun 2015 10:42 PM
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Zapolean is not online. Zapolean
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25 Jun 2015 10:44 PM
"our base is a fair base, meaning defenders and raiders have an equal opportunity to win

the only homefield advantage we have is that we know our base

if i raise the needed minimum defenders, then we can never have battles with small clans because itll require a massive amount of us to to be there and defend

it will take forever to wait for a server to become official

and it's just a cowardly rule, needing a ton of defenders

my policy is that if you can give us 10 minutes to get ready then it's fair game regardless of how many each side has"
so because your clan is not very active you need to force other clans to deal with it?


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Z007 is not online. Z007
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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25 Jun 2015 10:45 PM
back in the day when WIJ was in wars and really active, we didn't have that rule because we knew if people were at our base.

it's a bad sign if you need that rule
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Blackpig72 is not online. Blackpig72
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25 Jun 2015 10:46 PM
no clan can patrol 24/7
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Z007 is not online. Z007
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25 Jun 2015 10:47 PM
you don't have to patrol 24/7, lol
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
Joined: 12 May 2011
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25 Jun 2015 10:47 PM
who cares if ur not patrolling, the other team will dismiss and you can get your members in
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Zapolean is not online. Zapolean
Joined: 05 Apr 2012
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25 Jun 2015 10:47 PM
"no clan can patrol 24/7"
yeah so when a clan raids go defend then?


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toughman318 is not online. toughman318
Joined: 13 Jun 2010
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25 Jun 2015 10:47 PM
I mean it's called planning a raid not just going to an empty server. What dumbass clan will just walk into a server will 25 enemies in it?
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Z007 is not online. Z007
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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25 Jun 2015 10:49 PM
what clan has room for 25 raiders and defenders?
that's a really huge amount unless you have measures to prevent spawntrapping for miles
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