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Re: *long post* the AL al star vote is an embarrassment

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CheeseyMacral is not online. CheeseyMacral
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07 Jun 2015 01:26 PM
to professional baseball

what it looks like right now:

catcher:

salvador perez (.287 OBP with a .313 wOBA,100 wRC+, and 0.8 WAR) [kansas city]

1B:

miguel cabrera (.430 OBP with a .419 wOBA, 173 wRC+, and 2.3 WAR) [detroit]

2B:

jose altuve (.344 OBP with a .323 wOBA, 108 wRC+, and 1.5 WAR) [houston]

3B:

mike moustakas (.368 OBP with a .363 wOBA, 135 wRC+, and 1.9 WAR) [kansas city]

SS:

alcides escobar (.297 OBP with a .288 wOBA, 82 wRC+, and 0.8 WAR) [kansas city]

OF:

lorenzo cain (.331 OBP with a .325 wOBA, 109 wRC+, and 2.1 WAR) [kansas city]
mike trout (.375 OBP with a .389 wOBA, 159 wRC+, and 3.1 WAR) [anaheim]
alex gordon (.364 OBP with a .349 wOBA, 125 wRC+, and 1.8 WAR) [kansas city]

this is a JOKE

clearly there are players worthy of the all star game that are being voted in, obviously such as cabrera and trout of whom are having tremendous seasons, but the fact that the large majority of players being voted in are just so plainly average (slightly above average at BEST for most) is just embarrassing to professional baseballl

when "average" becomes the definition for being eligible to be voted into the ASG, the game itself has lost all of its meaning

i mean COME. ON. salvador perez is having a below average season and has a NEGATIVE oWAR, jose altuve is having an average season along with lorenzo cain, moustakas is having a good season but not nearly as good as josh donaldson, gordon is good but not as good as michael brantley, and alcides escobar is one of the worst shortstops in the LEAGUE

here is what the all star vote SHOULD look like:

catcher:

stephen vogt (.395 OBP with a .401 wOBA, 166 wRC+, and 2.4 WAR) [oakland]

1B:

miguel cabrera (.430 OBP with a .419 wOBA, 173 wRC+, and 2.3 WAR) [detroit]

2B:

jason kipnis (.411 OBP with a .396 wOBA, 162 wRC+, and 3.5 WAR) [cleveland]

3B:

josh donaldson (.364 OBP with a .402 wOBA, 160 wRC+, and a 3.4 WAR) [toronto]

SS:

jose iglesias (.388 OBP with a .356 wOBA, 129 wRC+, and a 1.7 WAR) [detroit]

OF:

jose bautista (.386 OBP with a .383 wOBA, 147 wRC+, and a 1.6 WAR) [toronto]
mike trout (.375 OBP with a .389 wOBA, 159 wRC+, and 3.1 WAR) [anaheim]
michael brantley (.384 OBP with a .366 wOBA, 141 wRC+, and 1.4 WAR) [cleveland]

as you can see in the real life all star vote, the royals have >FIVE< starters currently at the top of the vote

they shouldn't even have ONE

the all star vote is such a joke and it needs to be removed and replaced with people who can actually correctly judge and analyze statistics so that being an "all star" MEANS SOMETHING

it's evident the royals fans are just stuffing the ballot with their garbage players and there simply aren't enough fans of teams such as cleveland, oakland, and toronto to vote reputable players in

anyway that's my all star rant

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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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07 Jun 2015 01:27 PM
I don't agree with either opinions, sorry



"Pitchers who don't bat aren't baseball players" -CheeseyMacral
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CheeseyMacral is not online. CheeseyMacral
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07 Jun 2015 01:28 PM
what? just stop posting on my threads if you have nothing to contribute buddy

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hancock3 is not online. hancock3
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07 Jun 2015 01:28 PM
Iglesias should b on allstars, tbh if u have seen pedroia lately, he should b definitely on. been batting like .400 as a leadoff hitter for red sox lol
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07 Jun 2015 01:29 PM
I said I don't agree with either opinions

How is that not contributing?



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07 Jun 2015 01:31 PM
>Iglesias should b on allstars, tbh if u have seen pedroia lately, he should b definitely on. been batting like .400 as a leadoff hitter for red sox lol

let's look at his stats vs kipnis

jason kipnis (.411 OBP with a .396 wOBA, 162 wRC+, and 3.5 WAR)
dustin pedroia (.375 OBP with a .365 wOBA, 134 wRC+, and 1.8 WAR)

pedroia is having a great season but not as good as kipnis

dustin should be an all star but not a starter

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07 Jun 2015 01:32 PM
what about the pitchers


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07 Jun 2015 01:32 PM
>How is that not contributing?

because you listed no reasons as to why you don't agree, you didn't read the post, and you didn't even list WHAT OPINIONS you were even talking about

you clearly just post just to get your post count up

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hancock3 is not online. hancock3
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07 Jun 2015 01:32 PM
yee allstar bench is good too, he should b in allstar game regardless doe
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07 Jun 2015 01:33 PM
texeria should be in

2nd in HRs
1st in RBIs
inb4 mac says RBIs arent relevant
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07 Jun 2015 01:33 PM
>what about the pitchers

if you knew anything about baseball, pitchers aren't voted in

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07 Jun 2015 01:35 PM
>inb4 mac says RBIs arent relevant

they aren't

and it's really a shame you use "RBI" to judge him when he is in fact having a tremendous season

mark teixera (.355 OBP with a .389 wOBA, 152 wRC+, and a 1.6 WAR)

absolutely great year, just not as good as miggy and mark should be in as bench

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PhilCoke is not online. PhilCoke
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07 Jun 2015 01:35 PM
Escobar shouldn't be in it, not with a .297 OBP




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07 Jun 2015 01:36 PM
>Escobar shouldn't be in it, not with a .297 OBP

escobar is one of the worst shortstops in the league right now and the fact that HE is going to be a STARTING ALL STAR is such a joke

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07 Jun 2015 01:40 PM
if Iglesias hadn't been out for a little while with an injury, he'd probably be at the top




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DeadMan253 is not online. DeadMan253
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07 Jun 2015 01:40 PM
wow!

an all star game that doesn't actually represent the best players in the league?!?!

Shocking!!
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hancock3 is not online. hancock3
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07 Jun 2015 01:40 PM
don't rlly like Teixeira's stats other than his HRs/RBIs
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07 Jun 2015 01:41 PM
>if Iglesias hadn't been out for a little while with an injury, he'd probably be at the top

iglesias has played more games than escobar

it's just the dumbass KC voters who flood the vote

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07 Jun 2015 01:42 PM
>don't rlly like Teixeira's stats other than his HRs/RBIs

lol what are you talking about?

ignore home runs and RBI they're completely irrelevant, look at the stats i showed you

those are what matters and he's ROCKING those

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PhilCoke is not online. PhilCoke
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07 Jun 2015 01:43 PM
Well, then . . . I call B.S.!




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hancock3 is not online. hancock3
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07 Jun 2015 01:44 PM
think nelson cruz or hanley Ramirez could get in allstar game either as a start or on bench?
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07 Jun 2015 01:47 PM
Nelson Cruz will be voted in as DH.
Ramirez has little to no chance.
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CheeseyMacral is not online. CheeseyMacral
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07 Jun 2015 01:48 PM
>think nelson cruz or hanley Ramirez could get in allstar game either as a start or on bench?

oh my god yes

nelson cruz should actually be starting over michael brantley

nelson cruz (.382 OBP with a .424 wOBA, 182 wRC+, and 2.0 WAR)

those are just ridiculous

hanley on the othetr hand

hanley ramirez (.315 OBP with a .343 wOBA, 118 wRC+, and -0.5 WAR)

he could be bench after iglesias but i don't like his WAR and his defense is a JOKE

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hancock3 is not online. hancock3
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07 Jun 2015 01:50 PM
its his first season at LF tbh plus he's new to playing off the green monster
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CheeseyMacral is not online. CheeseyMacral
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07 Jun 2015 01:53 PM
>its his first season at LF

oh god yes for some reason i forgot he wasn't playing short anymore

yeah his defense is what does it for me

3 errors in LF but his rtot/yr is -27 and his dWAR on br is -1.5

so yep

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