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Re: The Blue Jays have really good potential.

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zc23 is not online. zc23
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06 Jun 2015 11:21 PM
They've scored 269 runs so far this season, that's the most in the majors. 3 players (Donaldson, Bautista and Encarnacion each have 30+ RBI's already, not to mention how hot Donaldson has been, a recent 10 game hit streak just snapped this afternoon but also a surprise in Chris Colabello who's currently on a 16 game hit streak.


Once the remainder of the injured players (LF Michael Saunders and 2B Devon Travis) are back on the roster the depth and offence of this team could be dangerous, the pitching was not the greatest to start the season but over the last 15 starts each pitcher has done extremely well.
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deathrange07 is not online. deathrange07
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06 Jun 2015 11:22 PM
"3 players (Donaldson, Bautista and Encarnacion each have 30+ RBI's already"

you triggered cheesey...watch out

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Kenamatic is not online. Kenamatic
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06 Jun 2015 11:22 PM
Bringing my broom tomorrow. =)
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123yonnd is not online. 123yonnd
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06 Jun 2015 11:22 PM
as expected blue jays stack up offense, and flop pitching
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zc23 is not online. zc23
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06 Jun 2015 11:22 PM
Shhh, if you don't mention his name he might not notice!
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06 Jun 2015 11:23 PM
They've had potential for the last 3-4 years and haven't done anything.
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zc23 is not online. zc23
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06 Jun 2015 11:23 PM
Yeah Donny but like I said, they've recently improved and can only keep improving... Aaron Sanchez walked a ton of batters in his first month and a half but as of late he's really gained the strike zone command and went 8+ innings giving up just 1 ER and walking nobody on Friday in the 6-2 victory.
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zc23 is not online. zc23
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06 Jun 2015 11:25 PM
Plus the addition of Russ Martin hasn't shown to improve their record yet but he's certainly impacted behind the plate with his ability to throw out runners and call a good game for the young talent on the pitching staff.
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Kenamatic is not online. Kenamatic
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06 Jun 2015 11:28 PM
Hopefully getting a Stroman bobblehead
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zc23 is not online. zc23
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06 Jun 2015 11:28 PM
Nice Kenny, enjoy the game tomorrow.
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Kenamatic is not online. Kenamatic
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06 Jun 2015 11:30 PM
I will, 2nd game I've ever gone to.

The con though is we are leaving at 7, 3 and a half hour drive to Rogers Centre, 3 9r so hour game, same 3 and a half hour ride home.

Note: The length of time driving there ad back is determined by traffic.
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CheeseyMacral is not online. CheeseyMacral
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06 Jun 2015 11:32 PM
it's a shame you used RBI to judge those players instead of actual stats like OBP and WAR, in which all of the players you mentioned (except encarnacion who is absolutely garbage) are having great seasons

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zc23 is not online. zc23
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06 Jun 2015 11:33 PM
It looks like Encarnacion is ruled out of tomorrow's game, my projected lineup may be this.

SS Reyes
3B Donaldson
RF Bautista
C Martin
1B Smoak
LF Colabello
CF Pillar
2B Goins
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anojan12345 is not online. anojan12345
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06 Jun 2015 11:33 PM
jays pitching always sucks
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CheeseyMacral is not online. CheeseyMacral
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06 Jun 2015 11:35 PM
milwaukee and colorado have worse pitching stats but yeah toronto is right there with them

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Kenamatic is not online. Kenamatic
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06 Jun 2015 11:35 PM
@zc

I highly doubt Collabello is batting after Smoak and Martin the way he is hitting.
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zc23 is not online. zc23
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06 Jun 2015 11:36 PM
You don't really think Encarnacion is garbage do you? You know he's just off to a slow start and has been injured for some parts... He's a good hitter.

Also you still haven't explained your logic on how to change/stop major league analysts from using RBI's as an accurate stat, how would you judge a way the runner on first, second or third are scored in by the hitter at the plate? Why isn't it an accurate judgement for you?
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06 Jun 2015 11:38 PM
since when is a guy that has consistently hits 30 homers every season garbage
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123yonnd is not online. 123yonnd
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06 Jun 2015 11:42 PM
Encarnacion's shoulder certainly hasn't helped his swing. He hit slightly better in May though.
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CheeseyMacral is not online. CheeseyMacral
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06 Jun 2015 11:42 PM
>You don't really think Encarnacion is garbage do you? You know he's just off to a slow start and has been injured for some parts... He's a good hitter.

yes i do, he's having a terrible season

he has a 0.1 WAR with a .306 OBP

>Also you still haven't explained your logic on how to change/stop major league analysts from using RBI's as an accurate stat, how would you judge a way the runner on first, second or third are scored in by the hitter at the plate? Why isn't it an accurate judgement for you?

RBI should never, ever be used to judge a player's value because the fact of the matter is that the batter has literally no control whatsoever of the ability of his teammates to get on base before he steps up to the plate

you don't change the way "driving in runs" is scored, it will always be the RBI, it's just that it's not an accurate measurement of a player's hitting ability

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06 Jun 2015 11:44 PM
>since when is a guy that has consistently hits 30 homers every season garbage

how is that even relevant whatsoever??? he gets on base at a .306 % and that is a JOKE, plus he has a dWAR of -0.3 with a wOBA of .326

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TomTheNoob1204 is online. TomTheNoob1204
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06 Jun 2015 11:45 PM
American teams > Jays sorry guys.
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zc23 is not online. zc23
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06 Jun 2015 11:46 PM
Yeah it's true obviously the player on deck has no control or ability to make sure the batter at the plate gets on base but it defiantly changes their approach if he does get on doesn't it? If there's 2 outs and you're up you're probably thinking 1 of 2 things, don't strikeout here or let's hit a HR or get a big base hit, if there's a runner on they've probably changed their approach especially if they aren't a typical HR hitter to let's single up the middle if the runner is on 2nd, and go for that RBI... Right?
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BroBro264 is not online. BroBro264
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06 Jun 2015 11:47 PM
"how is that even relevant whatsoever??? he gets on base at a .306 % and that is a JOKE, plus he has a dWAR of -0.3 with a wOBA of .326"

pretty sure he's a power hitter and that is how power hitters play.

but i forgot. there's only two stats in the mlb. war and on base percentage.
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123yonnd is not online. 123yonnd
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06 Jun 2015 11:50 PM
Edwin should be fine when his shoulder gets full healed up. He's actually hitting more groundballs than flyballs, the first time ever in his career.
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