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Re: I have religious morals but am not religious.

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VedatPasha is not online. VedatPasha
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28 May 2015 10:51 PM
Or maybe I am religious. I'm not even sure anymore.
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28 May 2015 10:52 PM
i don't know what i am
but what i care about is being happy

...no, wasting my life here doesn't exactly make me happy but hey what else am i gonna do lol
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mentelfigure is not online. mentelfigure
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28 May 2015 10:52 PM
religion is an excuse for humans who did not know why they were created

Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream.
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VedatPasha is not online. VedatPasha
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28 May 2015 10:53 PM
I know about the Big Bang and evolution, but I feel like I believe in a religion, just without its gods even though I admire them. If that makes any sense...
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Groundskeeper is not online. Groundskeeper
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28 May 2015 10:54 PM
Religious morals could be cultural as well. Much like America *had* morals, yet not everyone was religious.
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28 May 2015 10:55 PM
I've adopted a few religious morals, but I'm unreligious and probably going to stay that way.

Nothing endures.
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VedatPasha is not online. VedatPasha
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28 May 2015 10:58 PM
I just feel a strong cultural connection to Tengrism and abide by a lot of its laws. Like the religious tolerance rule and the three times a month rule. But I don't necessarily believe in the creation story or the gods in it. You know what I mean?
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mentelfigure is not online. mentelfigure
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28 May 2015 10:59 PM
or is it tradition

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VedatPasha is not online. VedatPasha
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28 May 2015 11:00 PM
Mostly no one really admires that religion in the way that I do here, they all follow by Islam's rules instead.
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28 May 2015 11:05 PM
You are not alone in this. I am an ex-christian, but I still 'abide' by a few of the rules. Mainly one though, and that one is 'do unto others as you would do to you'. Even then I don't always follow it because to be honest I am kind of a terrible person, but I do the best I can.
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VedatPasha is not online. VedatPasha
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28 May 2015 11:06 PM
Wisest I think it's a bit different for me because I'm following the rules of a religion that barely exists anymore.
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28 May 2015 11:09 PM
Tengrism? I admit I have never heard of that before. What are the rules that you follow?
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28 May 2015 11:12 PM
What exactly are religious morals? How are they different from 'secular' morals?
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VedatPasha is not online. VedatPasha
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28 May 2015 11:19 PM
It's an older religion that my country used to follow before Islamic influence. Basically the morals are similar to other religions but a bit different.

- It says that no religion is false and that other religions and cultures must be tolerated and respected.
- It says that the flaws of others must be tolerated. People can't be punished for small flaws unless they do it more than three times a month.
- It says you must respect the environment, so no littering, and you must limit your use of electricity.
- It says that you must honour your ancestors and not forget them.
- It says you must acknowledge that everyone else has a life with their experiences and emotions and you have to respect them, can't hurt them. You have to apologize if you ever do something wrong. You can't call people names and so on. Most importantly, you have to protect everyone else to the best of your abilities.

And many other things. I don't know all of them. I don't read ancient scriptures.
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VedatPasha is not online. VedatPasha
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28 May 2015 11:20 PM
« What exactly are religious morals? How are they different from 'secular' morals? »

I mean that my morals came right out of religious beliefs. I don't know how to explain it. I have secular morals as well.
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TheWisest is not online. TheWisest
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28 May 2015 11:33 PM
That sounds highly intriguing and I would love to learn more. Do you know of any good sources I could look at to get a better insight? Also does your family follow it, or are they a part of some other religion?
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VedatPasha is not online. VedatPasha
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28 May 2015 11:47 PM
Well different sects of the religion had different numbers of gods but the one I'm sort of going for had seventeen gods.

Basically, Tengri was the creator god. The blue skies represented him, so when you looked into the blue sky, you see Tengri. Tengri is said to control everything, but then again things have free will.

There's Eje, goddess of the Earth, she embodies the dirt and grass. Erkliğ was another god that embodied outerspace, so when you see the night skies, you see Erkliğ. And so on... Not very clear on other gods... Erlik was sort of like the bad guy, but he was still a god. He was the god of death.

Then there are spirits. There are spirits in just about everything. People, animals, plants, even rocks and bodies of water. And you have to respect all things, pretty much. There are also spirits not in a physical body, like our ancestors' spirits are watching us achieve things, and evil spirits trying to tempt us to do bad things.

There are a lot of mountains around Central Asia that are scared to this religion. Tengrists would have gone to those places as pilgrimage.

If you want to read more about it, there is certainly a Wikipedia page on it.
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VedatPasha is not online. VedatPasha
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28 May 2015 11:48 PM
And also, no, my parents are Islamic. I just feel like Tengrism is an important part of my culture. Even today there are still expressions and stuff based on it.
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TheWisest is not online. TheWisest
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28 May 2015 11:53 PM
When you say a 'a religion that barely exists anymore' what does that imply? Less than one million? Sorry for all the questions, this just intrigues me.
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VedatPasha is not online. VedatPasha
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28 May 2015 11:59 PM
Maybe less than a million. Not sure, I can't find much information on that. The religion just sort of died out because of Islamic influence, Buddhist influence, and just that some people lost faith.
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