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Re: What is the explanation for transgenderism?

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HygenistHygenist6 is not online. HygenistHygenist6
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03 May 2015 03:26 PM
Can you explain why it's not a mental illness?

“And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.” -Nietzsche
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Aardbeien is not online. Aardbeien
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03 May 2015 03:26 PM
It's never been declassified as a mental illness I believe. It still is one.


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DoTheSafetyDance is not online. DoTheSafetyDance
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03 May 2015 03:26 PM
brain =/= body
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KingCamembert is not online. KingCamembert
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03 May 2015 03:26 PM
It's meant to be but it's not for some reason. Eh, let them be, they'll perhaps evolve to at least have the brain of a chimpanzee.

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HygenistHygenist6 is not online. HygenistHygenist6
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03 May 2015 03:28 PM
@DoTheSafetyDance

To deny the brain is not a part of the body is absurd.

“And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.” -Nietzsche
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scatteredmemories is not online. scatteredmemories
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03 May 2015 03:28 PM
because not being happy with your gender is totally a mental illness!!1
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LordThaller is not online. LordThaller
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03 May 2015 03:29 PM
you are born with two X chromosomes or an X and a Y. there is no in between
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Aardbeien is not online. Aardbeien
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03 May 2015 03:29 PM
"It's meant to be but it's not for some reason. Eh, let them be, they'll perhaps evolve to at least have the brain of a chimpanzee."

I didn't know people blatantly implied transgender people are significantly underdeveloped. That's incredibly stupid.


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HygenistHygenist6 is not online. HygenistHygenist6
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03 May 2015 03:30 PM
@scatteredmemories

Being actually depressed because your body doesn't match the gender-stereotypes in your culture is.

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CeliCopter is not online. CeliCopter
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03 May 2015 03:30 PM
"brain =/= body"

are you stupid
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DoTheSafetyDance is not online. DoTheSafetyDance
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03 May 2015 03:31 PM
"To deny the brain is not a part of the body is absurd."

good job
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EarthboundFTW is not online. EarthboundFTW
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03 May 2015 03:31 PM
gender identity is an actual thing, op
it's not a mental illness at all


"this misconception of human loneliness must be disregarded."
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RobustPhysics is not online. RobustPhysics
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03 May 2015 03:32 PM
There are two types of transgender. There is what is best called "gender dysphoria", or the discomfort with being put into gender roles, and "5ex dysphoria", or the discomfort with ones body/5ex.

Gender dysphoria is more of a nurture thing, while 5ex dyshporia is more of a nature thing, although they're both a result of some degree of nature and nature.

Gender dysphoria is still a serious issue, but it's usually best treated through therapy. 5ex dysphoria still requires a lot of research, but it's usually best treated through therapy and often times hormone replacement therapy.

Yeah, they're both kind of a mental illness, cause they aren't healthy states of minds, but they're also not something to make fun of. And being transgender doesn't make somebody less of a person either. It doesn't show that they're "whiny" or whatever.
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LordThaller is not online. LordThaller
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03 May 2015 03:32 PM
no, you have to be mentally deranged or just seeking attention to be a tranny
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HygenistHygenist6 is not online. HygenistHygenist6
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03 May 2015 03:32 PM
@Earthbound

I'm talking specifically about people who transition. They claim to NEED to do this to not feel disgusted with themselves. Wouldn't it be a lot simpler and cheaper to be medicated?

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EarthboundFTW is not online. EarthboundFTW
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03 May 2015 03:32 PM
@lord
that's not true at all
quit being edgy


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DoTheSafetyDance is not online. DoTheSafetyDance
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03 May 2015 03:33 PM
"are you stupid"

idk are u smart
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LordThaller is not online. LordThaller
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03 May 2015 03:33 PM
@earth
im not being edgy im pointing out fact.
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HygenistHygenist6 is not online. HygenistHygenist6
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03 May 2015 03:33 PM
@RobustPhysics
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Except, since hormone therapies are pretty much irreversible, I'd recommend against it...

“And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.” -Nietzsche
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Aardbeien is not online. Aardbeien
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03 May 2015 03:33 PM
"Wouldn't it be a lot simpler and cheaper to be medicated?"

how do you expect to medicate transgenderism

there isn't magic pills for everything


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HygenistHygenist6 is not online. HygenistHygenist6
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03 May 2015 03:36 PM
@Aardbeien

They have pills for depression, no? And for psychosis? Actually they do, I know because I'm on them. I think an anti-anxiety/antipsychotic/antidepressant cocktail should do the trick. Heaven knows, it's worked for me.

“And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.” -Nietzsche
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LordThaller is not online. LordThaller
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03 May 2015 03:37 PM
@earth
you put up no good arguments other than "nope ur wrong"
weeb get off my board and back 2 tumblr
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PickachuGirl is not online. PickachuGirl
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03 May 2015 03:37 PM
"you are born with two X chromosomes or an X and a Y. there is no in between"

inters3x people
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LordThaller is not online. LordThaller
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03 May 2015 03:45 PM
^they're people born disfigured and are in a sense deformed
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RobustPhysics is not online. RobustPhysics
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03 May 2015 03:59 PM
"Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Except, since hormone therapies are pretty much irreversible, I'd recommend against it..."

The only problem I have with hormone therapies, is the fact that people prescribe them for children that are just not obeying gender norms. Most children who take hormones end up regretting it.

It's just a shame that if you don't take hormones at a young age, they tend to be very ineffective. While gender dysphoric people probably shouldn't take hormones at a young age, is can be dangerous for 5ex dysphoric people to wait too long. Going through the wrong puberty can be hell on a person.


"inters3x people"

They have been asked not to be used as political talking points. Also, unless somebody has this one thing that results in both XX and XY chromosomes, they're still technically male or female. Male is the presence of a Y chromosome, and female is the absence of a Y chromosome.

Although if somebody inter5ex with XY chromosomes is raised as a woman or vice versa, I have no trouble considering them female/male.
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