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Re: roblox's economy is perfectly libertarian

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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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30 Apr 2015 09:25 PM
glory
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KodakKid3 is not online. KodakKid3
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30 Apr 2015 09:29 PM
wtf is this even???

your probably being sarcastic but if not consider this

–price floor
–sales taxs
–income taxs
–massive inflation
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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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30 Apr 2015 09:30 PM
libertarianism has nothing to do with any of those factors except probs price floor

but regardless lol???
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KodakKid3 is not online. KodakKid3
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30 Apr 2015 09:37 PM
ummm libertarianism means prue capitalism

so no sales tax or price floor

i guess the others are fine but still
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30 Apr 2015 09:38 PM
pure
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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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30 Apr 2015 09:40 PM
taxes exist in capitalism otherwise federal revenue would be significantly less than it would be without it lol

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30 Apr 2015 09:42 PM
pure capitalism doesn't exist just like pure communism doesn't
capitalism does mean no government being involved (taxes)
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KodakKid3 is not online. KodakKid3
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30 Apr 2015 09:42 PM
yes but not sales tax because sales tax interferes negatively with the economy

basically just income tax
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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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30 Apr 2015 09:43 PM
libertarianism does not mean there is 0 regulation

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SAPCenter is not online. SAPCenter
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30 Apr 2015 09:43 PM
i said capitalism means no government
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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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30 Apr 2015 09:43 PM
ok ur right on the sales tax part

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30 Apr 2015 09:44 PM
sap obviously pure capitalism doesnt exist but it should

and obviously pure communism doesnt exist because communism is garbage
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30 Apr 2015 09:44 PM
this thread is about libertarianism loser
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30 Apr 2015 09:45 PM
actually pure capitalism wouldn't be a good idea because it removes any government support of insurance like unemployment and also removes minimum wage requirement
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30 Apr 2015 09:47 PM
you're slightly off but yeah

in an ideal libertarian society there is virtually zero government influence on economics

the government itself is very limited and exists almost purely to prevent monopoly, the only real federal economic control

libertarians believe in what is referred to as a free market

everyone does what they want to with no restriction, safety precautions, unions or dividends and lets the consumer and the money speak for itself
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30 Apr 2015 09:49 PM
@sap unemployment and minimum wages are bad smh

and rahvin yeah thats why pure libertarianism isnt always good bc you do need some other government regulation (like for earthquake codes and stuff) but generally it is good
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30 Apr 2015 09:51 PM
not really
capitalism was a good idea back when people didn't travel out of their towns
it meant that competition was actually a thing
nowadays if you don't like mcdonalds you can't really make it change by having a town not eat there because it is so huge
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30 Apr 2015 09:52 PM
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30 Apr 2015 09:53 PM
@sap nowadays if you dont like mcdonalds you can go to pizza hut

capitalism really only fails when true monopolies occur and competition is broken
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30 Apr 2015 09:54 PM
the idea that capitalism advocates anarchy is utter nonsense

capitalism/communism are economic systems

anarchy/fascism are political systems

it is true that extreme advocates of one form of economic system will generally trend towards a suitably radical political system, but that is not necessarily the norm

capitalism requires government, as it relies heavily on private property rights and enforcement of contracts which require a government with some level of funding and authority
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30 Apr 2015 09:55 PM
but what if you don't like pizzahut either it isn't going to hurt them either if your whole town doesn't eat there since it is also huge
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30 Apr 2015 09:55 PM
usafgeneral is here glory

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30 Apr 2015 09:56 PM
usaf when i said no government i meant that it cannot tax or anything meaning it will be weak and pretty much out of the way
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30 Apr 2015 09:56 PM
@SAP

you seem to be denying the fact that McDonalds (and the service industry, in general) have plenty of competitors

you could choose to spend your money at Burger King, Wendy's, Panda Express, Chipotle, Del Taco, or any other fast-food restaurant that tickles your fancy

the real problem with monopolies comes with those that have achieved the status of monopoly through government regulation (i.e. cable providers, which have the exclusive right to lay cable in a certain area)

the monopolies that have achieved their status through government regulation should be subject to government regulation

and I say that as a very ardent capitalist
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30 Apr 2015 09:57 PM
what i'm saying is that you cannot persuade mcdonalds or pizza hut to change their menus unless majority of the customers want it to change you can't just gather a bunch of friends and demand they make tacos
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