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Re: America seriously needs better social education

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Rahvin is not online. Rahvin
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26 Apr 2015 11:33 PM
Especially in the South and bible belt

I encounter such amazing ignorance all the time

Just a minute I was having a discussion with kinggaming, who brought up Japanese war crimes in WWII

I mentioned both the fact that Japan is the only country in history to have nuclear armaments dropped on them (a civilian population, twice. unjustifiable) and the horrendous displacement camps for Japanese-American citizens in which many died during WWII

He was ignorant evidently to both of these.

THIS is the root of the problem
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Rahvin is not online. Rahvin
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26 Apr 2015 11:34 PM
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Hare8901 is not online. Hare8901
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26 Apr 2015 11:34 PM
"Stop judging people!!!"

immediately stereotypes america and the american south
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KodakKid3 is not online. KodakKid3
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26 Apr 2015 11:35 PM
rahvin if you oppose dropping nukes on japan, then would you prefer millions of people have died by invading the japanese mainland?

because that would have been the only alternative

and besides killing millions of people on both sides (as opposed to around 150-250k people tops from the nukes), the entire japanese mainland would have been decimated, rather than just two cities
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Hare8901 is not online. Hare8901
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26 Apr 2015 11:35 PM
and as I said earlier

No the japanese hanging chinese people by their tongues and throwing infants into boiling water
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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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26 Apr 2015 11:35 PM
internment camp*
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Rahvin is not online. Rahvin
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26 Apr 2015 11:36 PM
@koda

what purpose would there be in invading japan again? they had already been pushed back, literally nothing was profited other than achieving total submission. ignorant thing to say
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Rahvin is not online. Rahvin
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26 Apr 2015 11:37 PM
@seviro

the deaths in these "internment camps" as well as the YEARS of abuse of japanese-american citizens is atrocious regardless
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Hare8901 is not online. Hare8901
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26 Apr 2015 11:37 PM
The United States wanted an unconditional surrender. The USA even ended up rebuilding Japan after the surrender.
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26 Apr 2015 11:37 PM
It was either drop the bombs or attempt to invade Japan which would have led to the deaths of countless American soldiers - the casualties would have been HORRENDOUS for both sides

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kinggaming is not online. kinggaming
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26 Apr 2015 11:38 PM
>Implying I'm American.
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KodakKid3 is not online. KodakKid3
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26 Apr 2015 11:39 PM
rahvin, calling me ignorant, you obviously haven't studied world war 2, smh

there's no "invading japan again"

the japanese mainland was never invaded, in the history of ever, even in world war 2

the only invasion of japan we'd already done was against territory japan had conquered during the war

also, you obviously don't understand that the only way ww2 could be finished was total submission.
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Rahvin is not online. Rahvin
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26 Apr 2015 11:39 PM
@Camp

very incorrect and a classical excuse

there is NO justification for dropping nuclear bombs on LARGE CIVILIAN POPULATIONS

at the least they could have targeted military installations easily demonstrating their capability or spared the second city which costed the lives of tens of thousands in a firery atomic cleansing, thanks
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Hare8901 is not online. Hare8901
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26 Apr 2015 11:41 PM
The bombed cities were military production powerhouses. Did some of the civilians deserve to die? No. But Japan brutally killed people in China, and killed surrendered Americans in the Philippines. I dislike your attitude that the US were the only bad guys in this.
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Rahvin is not online. Rahvin
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26 Apr 2015 11:42 PM
also another excellent explanation by RadecMortem I'll share with you:

I just read this & I thought it was pretty hilarious.

"rahvin if you oppose dropping nukes on japan, then would you prefer millions of people have died by invading the japanese mainland?

because that would have been the only alternative

and besides killing millions of people on both sides (as opposed to around 150-250k people tops from the nukes), the entire japanese mainland would have been decimated, rather than just two cities"

Actually, the Japanese were considering surrendering if their Emperor still got to lead their country

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you have zero excuse
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zombieking7977 is not online. zombieking7977
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26 Apr 2015 11:43 PM
If the US had targeted 2 military installations instead of 2 civilian population centers, the war would have taken longer to end. If you were the Emperor of Japan in that time period, it would have been a harder blow if you were hit in civilian areas, not military installations.



Deal with it.
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Rahvin is not online. Rahvin
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26 Apr 2015 11:44 PM
@zombie

this reaching conclusion justifies 150k+ innocent lives, death to the enemies of amercia+
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Pyrante is not online. Pyrante
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26 Apr 2015 11:44 PM
I live in Louisiana and I knew that.


Brb, drinking bleach. I am Centurians, add 20,204 posts to my post count.
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Hare8901 is not online. Hare8901
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26 Apr 2015 11:44 PM
literally ignore everything I say lmao
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SirGeorgeDuff is not online. SirGeorgeDuff
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26 Apr 2015 11:45 PM
agreed

skeleton of fc
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KodakKid3 is not online. KodakKid3
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26 Apr 2015 11:47 PM
rahvin, no one here supports killing 150k+ innocent people, its a horrible thing that that happened

but I would easily kill 150k+ innocent people, if the alternative was to have millions of innocent people die, and thats why the nukes will always be justifiable, its really that simple
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kinggaming is not online. kinggaming
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26 Apr 2015 11:47 PM
Where do you stand on the Irish potato famine? In the 3 years an estimated 1 million people died in it. 20-25% of Irelands population at the time, I'd like to know what you think of it.
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zombieking7977 is not online. zombieking7977
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26 Apr 2015 11:47 PM
Do you forget how many civilians died at the hands of the Japanese, it's estimated they killed around 5 million civilians died at their hands.



Deal with it.
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Rahvin is not online. Rahvin
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26 Apr 2015 11:48 PM
@kodak

a military campaign would have have minimal civilian casualties, certainly not within the scope of millions, and japan would have surrendered within a week

we're talking a few thosand deaths at the most here
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Hare8901 is not online. Hare8901
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26 Apr 2015 11:49 PM
"a military campaign would have have minimal civilian casualties, certainly not within the scope of millions, and japan would have surrendered within a week

we're talking a few thosand deaths at the most here"

ok thats it you are really dumb
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