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Re: uaf vs raa from my perspective

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nowihaveyou is not online. nowihaveyou
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15 Apr 2015 04:05 PM
war terms were made and agreed on whenever

http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=159811405

1 hour before the war starts i went to coventry to see if everything was good and ready for war
but it wasnt
so i immediately went to uaf who was i think rallying and asked gears/lucara (one of them) to follow me to show them the issues
they see the guns were broken and everyone spawned in with a black screen that would only be removed when respawned

false (or whoever it was) was about to reluctantly push the war start time to 7 pm (originally at 2 pm) but paul was able to get a different version of coventry up and working so we used that

raa lost 2 defences back to back then paul said he got another version of coventry working which after asking uaf to switch to the other base they did
they were raiding then hopped to a second server during the raid
then lost that server

If i recall correctly we then went to go raid uaf but gears said no not until coventry 2 (the first base that paul won that uaf won 2 at) was reopened for uaf to raid

we didnt comply and were kicked

i think the argument after this was that that was the base we were supposed to use for war while sas says it was not

whenever this was later (dont remember exact times sorry) sas opened the original base we were supposed to use which included 3 capturable points including on based on the side of a mountain

but uaf claimed coventry 2 was the base we had to use


any questions regaurding how i typed this just ask
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nowihaveyou is not online. nowihaveyou
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15 Apr 2015 04:06 PM
this is 100% true based on my view of what happened and can be proven through reverting back to old updates in the bases to show what problems there were and the capturable base one created (but apparently broken) before the war started
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nowihaveyou is not online. nowihaveyou
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15 Apr 2015 09:27 PM
K
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PIebeian is not online. PIebeian
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15 Apr 2015 09:29 PM
synoa or die
:-)
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iKeno is not online. iKeno
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15 Apr 2015 09:30 PM
so it seems uaf wanted an easy base to raid at.
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Acurius is not online. Acurius
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15 Apr 2015 09:34 PM
This is now just old, and stupid repetition with a hint of false information.

I'm not gonna bother retaliating with this, and this'll be my only post. Synoan said himself " the base is fine " without bothering to visit it. He later then raided, got mad because he never knew we could enter through the raider's tunnel, he got mad because we could use cliffs(which is accessible to both) and he then wanted us to change it although war-terms were out already.

He made us wait until 6:00 PM EST to open up the base, and then we saw that the timer had been quite buggy( it didn't really matter, did not affect the raid ) then, the guns were still glitched as it still had the auto-shooting bug.

Now, this " they were raiding then hopped to a second server during the raid
then lost that server " that just simply urked me on how hysterical it was. You do understand, we are not " dead " as many of C&G proclaims us to be. We are in fact quite active, and our activity only gets better when during a war. That being said we held two raids, one of which the first server was losing, and the second server ended up losing as well.

For shame, you win some, and you lose some?

Please, I ask with respect don't post something that you have no actual knowledge on, and you're one-siding the whole discussion, it wastes time, and simply hurts the minds of those who are unaware.

Let the Phoenix rise!
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Acurius is not online. Acurius
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15 Apr 2015 09:35 PM
So, yes for it being your perspective, I just wanted to point out the wrong.

Otherwise, seeing RAAvUAF over the forums is just dead news.

Let the Phoenix rise!
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nowihaveyou is not online. nowihaveyou
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15 Apr 2015 09:38 PM
"Now, this " they were raiding then hopped to a second server during the raid
then lost that server " that just simply urked me on how hysterical it was. You do understand, we are not " dead " as many of C&G proclaims us to be. We are in fact quite active, and our activity only gets better when during a war. That being said we held two raids, one of which the first server was losing, and the second server ended up losing as well."


I'd agree with you if I wasn't there for myself

But I was
Near the end just before the server hop people slowly began to leave and at that time there was on,y 2-4 people in the second server

I'd tell you to ask the people in raa defending about me saying "THEYRE HOPPIJG SERVERS GO SWITCH NOW"

But I think you don't take me or the raa members seriously or trustworthy
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nowihaveyou is not online. nowihaveyou
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15 Apr 2015 09:41 PM
Please, I ask with respect don't post something that you have no actual knowledge on, and you're one-siding the whole discussion, it wastes time, and simply hurts the minds of those who are unaware.


The thread is made from my point of view so of course it's one sided and I'll gladly dispute the parts that aren't agreed on


Also it wasn't at 6 that you guys started raided it was roughly at the time the war was supposed to start
Slightly later because Paul had to edit the base

I can go back and show the audit logs from RAA to prove this
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Acurius is not online. Acurius
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15 Apr 2015 09:43 PM
It was a late launch, If I could remember. We were waiting at both, White Phoenix Dam, and Kopervich with at least 20 people in each server. Then, I entered White Phoenix Dam, and I remember seeing " They're already two hours late " or something along the lines of that.

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Acurius is not online. Acurius
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15 Apr 2015 09:44 PM
A server hop is an attempt to create a new server, we gave you the go of " this server has been lost " in the first server, and we told our men and women to go pend for the second server.

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PIebeian is not online. PIebeian
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15 Apr 2015 09:46 PM
" We were waiting at both, White Phoenix Dam, and Kopervich with at least 20 people in each server."

i havent seen you really more than 20
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PIebeian is not online. PIebeian
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15 Apr 2015 09:47 PM
rally****
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Kling2296 is not online. Kling2296
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15 Apr 2015 09:51 PM
At the end of the day, this was a disaster on both sides. I'll quote an old movie you guys have probably never seen, Cool Hand Luke. "What we have here is a failure to communicate". It's a shame that all of this happened, but as Acurius has said this is old news now. You are only stirring the pot that doesn't need to be stirred anymore. It's over, move on and good luck to RAA in the future.
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nowihaveyou is not online. nowihaveyou
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15 Apr 2015 09:53 PM
/751bfbc49ef04c8f5b16de34dc836cd2
audit logs showing time of defend


you:
"Now, this " they were raiding then hopped to a second server during the raid
then lost that server " that just simply urked me on how hysterical it was. You do understand, we are not " dead " as many of C&G proclaims us to be. We are in fact quite active, and our activity only gets better when during a war. That being said we held two raids, one of which the first server was losing, and the second server ended up losing as well. "

me:
But I was
Near the end just before the server hop people slowly began to leave and at that time there was on,y 2-4 people in the second server


you:
A server hop is an attempt to create a new server, we gave you the go of " this server has been lost " in the first server, and we told our men and women to go pend for the second server.


im not sure what you're getting at
i said you server hopped
and you agreed

ok so what

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Synoan is not online. Synoan
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15 Apr 2015 09:53 PM
dude acurius is soooo wrong lmao
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Acurius is not online. Acurius
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15 Apr 2015 09:54 PM
There were around 12 people in the other server, judging that it became official, and we outnumbered you.

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nowihaveyou is not online. nowihaveyou
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15 Apr 2015 09:54 PM
yeah i agree with the communication was bad however i saw multiple threads today bashing on raa when i don't think its >>>>>>entirely<<<<<<< our fault


yes sas should've had the base he wanted out and ready for war
but he didnt
so we worked around it and gea-

k well i better not get into sticky spots now should i
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nowihaveyou is not online. nowihaveyou
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15 Apr 2015 09:56 PM
"There were around 12 people in the other server, judging that it became official, and we outnumbered you."


as you guys started leaving in big enough numbers that i figured you were leaving someone said they were hopping to second server
so i looked
saw 2-4 people in there so i spammed ingame for everyone to hop servers

you're making the assumption we all went as fast as we possibly could to get into the server

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nowihaveyou is not online. nowihaveyou
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15 Apr 2015 09:57 PM
also i do gotta talk fault for something in the first place as i should've been arguing for raa rather then sas since i was there the hours leading up to and follow the war start
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Acurius is not online. Acurius
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15 Apr 2015 10:07 PM
Here is shows you were late on your opening, and decided to attack us before we actually confirmed your base was fixed, and well ready.

/hiNfito,ofJkMwe

It shows that we did call in for people in the second server before the actual first server raiding group gave up, but not during any point in time did they all rush to join the second server since we already had men in it.

I'm not sure if you're unaware of them being there, and you may have just refreshed your page to an official server but, we did not server hop, much rather give up, after a good while of stalling that server.

Now, it's around six in the morning soon, I shall be off, cheers.

Let the Phoenix rise!
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nowihaveyou is not online. nowihaveyou
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15 Apr 2015 10:13 PM
the point im referring to is when you server hopped from a server at cov to anotehr server

this was at like 3/4 pm

you're showing me something that happened hours later so im assuming you're talking about when we eventually did raid you


IIRC when we went to go raid gears told us to open back up coventry 2 instead of coventry 1 "because the guns were broken" and we, minutes later were kicked from uaf's base

you guys said that because the guns hg'ed and something else that you would not raid there
_____________________

the issue i had with this was
you were fine with raiding there for 2 raids but only when you began losing did you say that the guns were hg'ing
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Synoan is not online. Synoan
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15 Apr 2015 10:19 PM
uaf group banned raa so clearly uaf was to blame lol
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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16 Apr 2015 12:17 AM
If you're looking for a good synopsis of the UAF-RAA war, check these two threads.

Attempts at Cooperation:
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=160037271

Response to Proposal for Cooperation:
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=160066003

UAF, though we would have liked to raid Coventry 2, never demanded that RAA reinstate Coventry 2. We simply asked that they use the version of Coventry 1 (w/o CPs) used on the first day of the war, with fixed guns. That's it.

We were displeased by the updates to Coventry 1, including CPs and cover, and shut down Kopervich under the impression that Synoan clearly violated the war terms We asked him to revert the updates, but he refused.

I would later post the above thread to reset our positions on multiple contentious issues in an effort to reach compromise with Synoan. If he refused to step down as I did, I could see no reason continuing the exercise in futility. He responded with the thread above and ended the war.

That, sir, is the concise account of the UAF-RAA war.
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