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Re: Buchanan was one of the worse Presidents in US history

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twinkie424 is not online. twinkie424
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08 Apr 2015 10:19 PM
no excuse.
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WarlordRising is online. WarlordRising
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08 Apr 2015 10:20 PM
no jimmy carter. although obama is making a good case
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08 Apr 2015 10:20 PM
carter
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iKeno is not online. iKeno
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08 Apr 2015 10:21 PM
errr obama is doing really good, he brought us out of the bad economy that bush put us into :/
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twinkie424 is not online. twinkie424
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08 Apr 2015 10:21 PM
Warlord!!

Why do you think Jimmy carter? iran hostage crisis?
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squidboi2 is not online. squidboi2
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08 Apr 2015 10:21 PM
obama's average.

nothing special good or bad.
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twinkie424 is not online. twinkie424
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08 Apr 2015 10:22 PM
Yeah Obama isn't as bad as other Presidents. I am very hesitant on labeling him a bad commander and chief.
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WarlordRising is online. WarlordRising
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08 Apr 2015 10:22 PM
Nah more towards the disaster of an economy that he created
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WarlordRising is online. WarlordRising
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08 Apr 2015 10:24 PM
obama has had a ton of scandals that not many people seem to care about: Benghazi, Bergdahl, the VA, and IRS targetting. I also don't like the refusal to cut spending
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twinkie424 is not online. twinkie424
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08 Apr 2015 10:24 PM
I think Carter is a good person though, but certainly a poor president.
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SyIas is not online. SyIas
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08 Apr 2015 10:25 PM
How does Obama oversee any of those administrations?
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twinkie424 is not online. twinkie424
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08 Apr 2015 10:27 PM
Every President has their scandals, though I do agree that his administration has a large sum of them. Although he has helped push for same sx marriage, improved the economic (though sluggishly), and has a unique foreign policy, ex drones, cuban relation, etc.
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WarlordRising is online. WarlordRising
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08 Apr 2015 10:28 PM
The White House was informed through email of Ambassador Stevens request for security at his embassy in Libya. They did nothing, and claimed ignorance while throwing Hillary under the bus. Obama was the one who executed the Berghdal swap, without informing congress, which is against the law. Early in his presidency (or during his campaign, I can't remember) he spoke about the terrible VA health care conditions and promised change, saying this is exactly what Obamacare would be for. Obviously he knew it was bad, but did nothing. I'll give it to you that there's not much on him for IRS targetting.
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SyIas is not online. SyIas
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08 Apr 2015 10:29 PM
Still though

He's done a lot of great too

He's just an average president

Buchanan was terrible

and there's been a lot worse and a lot better than Obama

Adams was pretty bad too
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WarlordRising is online. WarlordRising
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08 Apr 2015 10:29 PM
I do like his work towards marriage equality, although not much else.
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twinkie424 is not online. twinkie424
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08 Apr 2015 10:30 PM
Which Adams?!
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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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08 Apr 2015 10:30 PM
YOU MEAN TOM BUCHANAN FROM THE GREAT GATSBY?????????????????????
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WarlordRising is online. WarlordRising
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08 Apr 2015 10:31 PM
FDR would also be very high on my list, due to his prolonging the Great Depression as well as expanding the government at historic levels and not entering World War II until 1942.
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SyIas is not online. SyIas
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08 Apr 2015 10:31 PM
@Val

I had the same initial thought lol

@twinkie

the one who decided that speaking against the government was jailable and that enacted the Alien and sedation act
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SyIas is not online. SyIas
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08 Apr 2015 10:32 PM
FDR was a great president wtf is wrong with you lol

He did so much for the country to pull us out of the great depression
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twinkie424 is not online. twinkie424
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08 Apr 2015 10:33 PM
Yeah you're right but he was a great founding father.
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SyIas is not online. SyIas
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08 Apr 2015 10:33 PM
Yeah he was

Messed up the presidency though
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WarlordRising is online. WarlordRising
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08 Apr 2015 10:34 PM
No, he made it last longer. Look it up, several economists have said he just made it worse. I specifically remember a study from UCLA about it.
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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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08 Apr 2015 10:34 PM
"FDR would also be very high on my list, due to his prolonging the Great Depression as well as expanding the government at historic levels and not entering World War II until 1942."

Are you kidding me lol

FDR was without a doubt one of the best presidents in American history

I think his predecessor (Hoover) fits your description much better

One would think he served 3 terms (almost 4) for a reason

And his expansion of the government is what pulled the United States out of the depression
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08 Apr 2015 10:34 PM
"I do like his work towards marriage equality, although not much else."

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