ajc88
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| 07 Apr 2015 02:47 PM |
Like seriously? It's about politics, not the actual conflict.
So if USA declared war on Europe, lets get 2 things straight, The UK wont side with europe and Russia will just invade europe when america is finished.
Now, why isn't the UK going to side with Europe? Because we're a nation or stubborn gets that don't like europe.
But what if they declare war on Europe as a continent? The UK isn't part of the continent, as its an island. So still no UK v USA war heh.
What if the USA declared war on the UK and Europe? Well, That would mean they declare war on Pakistan (Has nukes), India (Has nukes), Canada (Has nukes) and many, many other nations, because they are all obliged to help each other in war time. And the queen is the only person who can declare war in NZ, AUS, CAN, UK, IND, PAK. You get the picture?
Ok so they've declared war on europe, and have launched troops into Italy and Portugal. The move down to spain and up to france. Spain do song and dance, portugal's entire population is in in another country for the world cup, and the french offer cheese while holding a while flag.
The most lethal forces in the EU are Poland, UK and Germany, as france has surrendered. The British have the best trained forces in the world, and would mostly focus on infiltration. Germany and Poland would most likely join forces and merge their armies into combat, giving an army of a considerable mass and budget. The UK has a decent air force, so that would link in. The USA is an obvious winner in terms of Naval battles. All the small forces would unite together and form a pretty big army, which would be bigger than the USA's. The war would deepen and deepen. The war will be mostly fought on European turf.
Now, The UK is infiltrating, they will have a ton of spies in and around the USA, this is good for manipulating decisions and such. Causing corruption in the US government. The US will also have spies in the UK and other nations, also causing problems.
The UK's special forces will be sent to Canada, and canada and UK forces will most likely push down from Canada. Since the US will have quite a considerable amount of soldiers in Europe, it will only leave the nation guard to protect america, and a couple of hundred thousand men. The french will push in from the Atlantic coast, obviously. Now the most strategic position for this would be New York. A clear checkpoint to capture. The North Koreans will then join in and push from the back. Thus the US would be fighting on 3 different fronts at home, while battling away. In Europe, the countries that are of smaller force will be holding off american advancement, and the US will be pulling troops out to defend the USA. At this point they 2 sides are in deep conflict, this obviously provides a perfect chance for Argentina to invade the falklands. So they do. However, they didn't know that the Australian military would be based there. This providing a conflict between Australia and Argentina, 2 matched forces....LOL NOT. Ofcourse, Australia repels the invasion and Argentina go crying again. Now. The French, canadian and British join advancement continues, but comes to a halt as the US sneak up behind France. Now you remember me saying the french surrendered? Well the troops in the US wouldn't know that due to bad communication between Europe and forces in the US.
So the french have been pretty much slaughtered. This means the pushing force is now weaker. This leading a political relations loosening between nations such as Britain, with france. The New Zealanders and the Auzzies began to join up in the US, as the push continued. By this time the amount of troops in the USA would have been halved, leaving the europeans to fight off the rest of them. The US are now on the defensive. More and more nations join up with british and Canadian forces, this leaving Europe more vulnerable. Leading to the New founded Soviet invasion of Europe. This attack was a bit lost for europe, as they had weaker forces. Argentina then declare war on The Commonwealth, Indian and Pakistani troops would then be deployed to Argentina. Obviously the winner of that conflict would be inevitable.
So basically, my point is, it would be a world war within the first 2-3 years. |
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ajc88
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| 07 Apr 2015 02:49 PM |
Based on current world affairs btw.
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| 07 Apr 2015 02:50 PM |
| You only have to consider the fact that if USA attacks any USA country every single country in the EU will crush them. |
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| 07 Apr 2015 02:51 PM |
*IF USA ATTACKS ANY EU COUNTRY
LOL SORRY |
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Cytoxin
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| 07 Apr 2015 02:52 PM |
| What makes you think that Russia would invade afterwards? |
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ajc88
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| 07 Apr 2015 02:53 PM |
@Cyton
They're fighting in ukraine and they stole crimea. For that part i was just working on a theory. |
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| 07 Apr 2015 02:54 PM |
Good thinking AJC
@phantom:
the EU would disintegrate instantaneously, leaving the super powers to arm the conflict as they have in all wars. The minor nations will play the side lines, serving who they are most associated with. |
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Cytoxin
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| 07 Apr 2015 02:55 PM |
Just because there fighting fro Ukraine doesn't mean they can also be engaged in another war. If I were Russia I might invade Alaska & Europe. |
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OttoBlitz
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| 07 Apr 2015 02:55 PM |
most Canadians I've met dislike the queen and UK and want to be independent
as well as Pakistan people I've met |
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ajc88
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| 07 Apr 2015 02:56 PM |
By this time the amount of troops in the USA would have been halved
Made a mistake on that bit ^
By this time the amount of troops in the EU from USA would have been halved*
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| 07 Apr 2015 02:56 PM |
@xX
You are assuming that America has enough power to erase Europe before anything can be done about it. I however agree any superpower that can find benefit or even profit in this hypothetical war would join in. |
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| 07 Apr 2015 02:56 PM |
you're a potato and you need to be peeled for the curry you are about to become.
~Maybe we can become good curry... Hand me the peeler.~ |
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| 07 Apr 2015 02:57 PM |
the united States is big and all but they couldn't take on Europe alone
especially since Russia has nukes :/// |
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| 07 Apr 2015 02:58 PM |
The USA would need to corrupt the minor nations associated with their enemies: control of the economy means the control of means of production, education and social media.
The internet would be immediately affected, unsure how. |
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ajc88
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| 07 Apr 2015 02:59 PM |
@Cyt I'm working on the basis they want to regain the Soviet union. Hence the 'New found sivet'
@Ot/0t whatever
Whether they like the UK or not, Ony the queen can declare war, that goes for Canada, India and the UK and Pakistan.
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| 07 Apr 2015 02:59 PM |
@Phantom: No, no
I mean EU as the European Union, not as Europe as a whole. The EU organisation will dissolve as war with the USA will become so controversial, many would drop out of the war or side with someone else for the sake of the wellbeing of their nation. |
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| 07 Apr 2015 03:01 PM |
@xX
The EU's political methods are pretty stupid. I can imagine them sending ultimatums about negotiations and moving out their ambassadors.
However, yes, the EU's integrity would hit an all-time low in the case of this war. |
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| 07 Apr 2015 03:02 PM |
| how about stop thinking about this |
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| 07 Apr 2015 03:02 PM |
@AJC
Soviet states will very unlikely reappear, considering now that globalisation has communism completely nullified. There is no such thing as an autonomous nation now, except North Korea which isn't the prettiest place, is it? (whom also depend on China's economy)(N.K protects its sovereignty with threats of nuclear devastation) |
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ajc88
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| 07 Apr 2015 03:05 PM |
@xx
Like i said, theory. But Putin seems like the type of guy who would.
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| 07 Apr 2015 03:05 PM |
I do believe however that the USA will fall in the case of total war.
The eagle will fall by the bear and the dragon |
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UnEndured
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| 07 Apr 2015 03:06 PM |
The British have the best Spy's in the world from MI5 and MI6. Also Canada and Australia share the same queen as us so they would side with the British. And we always have troops on the Falklands so there would still be British fighting Argentina there.
Another fact is that we would get Russia and Japan to side with us because the British have a strong bond with countrys all across the world. And you forgot to mention the British have nukes also but we just don't go into national debt for overspending on them.
Also america can't afford to lose alliances with Europe because there debt is over 11 Trillion (they wont be able to afford weapons).
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Axtrov
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| 07 Apr 2015 03:06 PM |
usa is full of fat people
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| 07 Apr 2015 03:07 PM |
| If EU is europe Why would india and other contries in asia jump in? |
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Axtrov
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| 07 Apr 2015 03:08 PM |
| cause india is commonwealth? fking idiot |
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