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Killer6199 is not online. Killer6199
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05 Apr 2015 06:35 PM
The struggle of the common-clan development. Developers are a hard-to-find people that require much for a new clan to succeed due to the standards set by modern-day society and community. However, the clan world takes major hits in inspiration, creativity, and other aspects which would make the clan-world a wondrous place. People have minds with amazing ideas to HELP and INNOVATE the clan world, yet developers are impossible to find that are:

-experienced
-talented
-willing to work

I feel like new developers have potential - yet not to the talent of some of the old legendary builders the clan-world used to have.

We've come to a standpoint, where new clans by experienced leaders cannot move past development mode because developers are just impossible to find and once you find some talented ones, they're asking about roughly 150,000 robux for a city.

ROBLOX has been dwelling in the development state of ROBLOX for months and years now, yes it's been great improvements, but what about the clan-world? All the good developers are looking to find quick money from creating games or asking high amounts to merely devex - which I don't blame them, but the clan world needs new blood, new developers, and new systems to help sustain and maintain the new clans coming out.

As a clan leader, it's been nearly impossible for me to find developers whom are willing to either:

#1 - Work for a proper price
#2 - Work at a proper pace or have will to work at all
#3 - Have massive experience and a knack in developing
#4 - Reach deadlines

It's a tedious work developing and I can understand that some people just hate it, but there has to be a way to install a new clan system which promotes developers to work for it without paying hundreds of thousands of robux.

>rant_done<
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Unteralterbach is not online. Unteralterbach
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05 Apr 2015 06:35 PM
tldr mad injun
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brian987987 is not online. brian987987
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05 Apr 2015 06:35 PM
i was hoping for a curry recipie
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Killer6199 is not online. Killer6199
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05 Apr 2015 06:36 PM
brian shutup
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Milnaria is not online. Milnaria
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05 Apr 2015 06:37 PM
Sometimes you have to learn it yourself in order to succeed
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Killer6199 is not online. Killer6199
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05 Apr 2015 06:38 PM
@Milnaria,

I understand that point and argue in this discussion.

However, in reality: some people are just straight-up disabled to be able to excel in development. Of course, learning how to script basic or create mediocre buildings is easy - but the majority of the people will never have time or the ability to just master it.
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ChiefDelta is not online. ChiefDelta
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05 Apr 2015 06:39 PM
let me explain how idiotic this thread is in a moment
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GiganticGulian is not online. GiganticGulian
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05 Apr 2015 06:39 PM
'It's a tedious work developing and I can understand that some people just hate it'

people who think that arent real devs
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Killer6199 is not online. Killer6199
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05 Apr 2015 06:40 PM
@Chief;

there's many arguments to my personal opinion on developers - which is why it's called "discussion"

but of course, if you find it necessary to flame yourself an argument, fine w/ me
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Zelnov is not online. Zelnov
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05 Apr 2015 06:41 PM
Developing is a fun thing, and I think that if a "developer" hates it, they aren't real Dev's.
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Milnaria is not online. Milnaria
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05 Apr 2015 06:41 PM
Scripter , you're better off finding a scripter. Everything else you can master and if you don't have the patience to do so ; then you are not willing to do what it takes to fullfill your group and therefore is not committed.

"It starts with a vision, it's fueled by desire, then it's executed by will".
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thea96 is not online. thea96
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05 Apr 2015 06:42 PM
'It's a tedious work developing and I can understand that some people just hate it'

people who think that arent real devs

x2
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ChiefDelta is not online. ChiefDelta
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05 Apr 2015 06:43 PM
" yet developers are impossible to find that are:

-experienced
-talented
-willing to work"

no they aren't. there's plenty.

" but what about the clan-world?"

its already almost dead. UCR is dead.

"new blood, new developers, and new systems to help sustain and maintain the new clans coming out."

there aren't any new real scripters sooooo

"#1 - Work for a proper price "

yeah i want you to try debugging and see how cheap youll work

"#2 - Work at a proper pace or have will to work at all"

stupid projects & low prices = low work ethic

"#3 - Have massive experience and a knack in developing"

you cant even TELL (nor can other clan leaders) who is good at scripting and who isnt.

"but there has to be a way to install a new clan system which promotes developers to work for it without paying hundreds of thousands of robux."

not really. if you have a super fun and very active clan than it might be worth doing it for less.

but yeah no. quality costs money. people aren't going to be your slaves.
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Killer6199 is not online. Killer6199
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05 Apr 2015 06:44 PM
stopped reading at - "its already almost dead. UCR is dead."
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ChiefDelta is not online. ChiefDelta
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05 Apr 2015 06:44 PM
also if your clan was actually active you wouldnt >NEED< to pay them, they'd make enough money if you let them sell gamepasses at your forts
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ChiefDelta is not online. ChiefDelta
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05 Apr 2015 06:45 PM
"stopped reading at - "its already almost dead. UCR is dead.""

oh yeah because you know im right?

you got 246 visits to your fort last week.

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Astraes is not online. Astraes
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05 Apr 2015 06:45 PM
Chief is awfully upset about something...
painful memories about trying to be a dev perhaps?
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thea96 is not online. thea96
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05 Apr 2015 06:46 PM
>>"#3 - Have massive experience and a knack in developing"

a random clan leader can look at ruinable and go "oh cool creative stuff"

or you can look at the actual code with knowledge of what to do and realize "what the hell is this"
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DieSoft is online. DieSoft
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05 Apr 2015 06:46 PM
"-experienced
-talented
-willing to work"

Then make new ones? You own a clan with almost 40k members. I've said this time and time over and I will say it again. Ask your members to dev for you, host some competition where people are to construct something then you pick out the best ones. Could do the same with a scripting competition.

Then you keep having them dev stuff and they'll eventually end up being a decent developer.

And thus... A new clan developer is born.

:o
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ChiefDelta is not online. ChiefDelta
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05 Apr 2015 06:46 PM
"Chief is awfully upset about something...
painful memories about trying to be a dev perhaps?"

im not upset at all, but this attitude of "BLAME DA DEVEILIPOERS" is insanely stupid

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Unteralterbach is not online. Unteralterbach
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05 Apr 2015 06:46 PM
UCR is dead in a clan sense tbh

sure you have an active community but you do nothing as a clan
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Killer6199 is not online. Killer6199
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05 Apr 2015 06:47 PM
@chief

compared to

VOID - 264
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GiganticGulian is not online. GiganticGulian
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05 Apr 2015 06:47 PM
'>>"#3 - Have massive experience and a knack in developing"
a random clan leader can look at ruinable and go "oh cool creative stuff"
or you can look at the actual code with knowledge of what to do and realize "what the hell is this"'

'a random clan leader can look at ruinable and go "oh cool creative stuff"'

this happens a lot and then ppl start thinking awful devs are like pro :U
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Killer6199 is not online. Killer6199
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05 Apr 2015 06:48 PM
@chief

I'm not "blaming the developers" - UCR itself has a set of developers that I am perfectly fine with

I opened this discussion to clans who had situations with this, including TSD, A-SOV, TRICON, CONEX
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ChiefDelta is not online. ChiefDelta
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05 Apr 2015 06:48 PM
yeah and VOID is pretty trashy and also pretty dead.

yeah VOID being dead too doesnt help your case, killer.

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