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Re: What happened to war? RAA,UAF,SF,TGI?

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Kling2296 is not online. Kling2296
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02 Apr 2015 09:33 PM
What has happened? Has the negotiations fallen through? I'm just curious when this thing will start, since we have Koper ready to go. I'm not asking to get bashing of leaders of groups, I just want truthful answers.
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HailMario is not online. HailMario
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02 Apr 2015 09:34 PM
err they're still fighting

it's 71 to 9 on raa/sf's side i believe
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Kling2296 is not online. Kling2296
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02 Apr 2015 09:37 PM
That's a prewar score, War hasn't started yet.
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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03 Apr 2015 12:30 AM
TGI, SF, and RAA wanted to divide the 2v2 into two separate 1v1's. TGI and SF have discussed terms, while I'm personally waiting to hear from Synoan concerning terms for a UAF-RAA conflict. That's where we currently stand.
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Synoan is not online. Synoan
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03 Apr 2015 12:41 AM
@False,

>First to 50 wins
>No base updates unless other side agrees
>Follow base rules
>No autowins
>Admin abuse will be adequately dealt with

Other than that we're ready to roll
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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03 Apr 2015 12:44 AM
I'd feel a bit more comfortable with 75 victories, Synoan. Otherwise, I'd like to have my HRs look over the terms to see if I've missed anything before giving you a final go-ahead.
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Synoan is not online. Synoan
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03 Apr 2015 12:44 AM
We're not doing 75
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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03 Apr 2015 12:46 AM
What would convince you? Considering that the original goal of the 2v2 was to acquire 150 victories, isn't it logically sound to divide that in half for our 1v1?
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Synoan is not online. Synoan
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03 Apr 2015 12:46 AM
A 1 v 1 is different from a 2 v 2, though. 50 victories is fine.
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Azurecanist is not online. Azurecanist
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03 Apr 2015 12:47 AM
Wassup my friend?
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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03 Apr 2015 12:49 AM
Once again, I'd feel more comfortable with 75. UAF is ready to settle into a long and challenging war with a worthy opponent, and I feel that limiting ourselves to 50 victories could rob us of that end.

Besides, wars are all too short these days. 75 sounds reasonable enough.
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zepenguin4 is not online. zepenguin4
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03 Apr 2015 12:49 AM
Meet in the middle, 60.
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Synoan is not online. Synoan
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03 Apr 2015 12:49 AM
Well I don't really care what you feel comfortable with. I'd bet that many UAF HRs would rather 50 wins. We're not doing more than 50. Sorry.
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chasegonian is not online. chasegonian
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03 Apr 2015 12:50 AM
false, he said 50, so do 50.
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Azurecanist is not online. Azurecanist
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03 Apr 2015 12:50 AM
Sup mate?
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zepenguin4 is not online. zepenguin4
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03 Apr 2015 12:51 AM
This is why war terms get no where.
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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03 Apr 2015 12:51 AM
If you came here to dictate, instead of negotiate, then why come with any pretension of war at all? I will lower my request to 60, but no less. This is more than fair for you, since I must step down 15 victories from my original proposal and you must step up a mere 10.
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Synoan is not online. Synoan
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03 Apr 2015 12:54 AM
How about we ask UAF HRs and RAA HR what they'd prefer?
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zepenguin4 is not online. zepenguin4
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03 Apr 2015 12:55 AM
YOU GO FALSE, YES BABY YOU GO BOY. SYNOAN, ACCEPT IT. WAR TERMS ARE GETTING SOMEWHERE. TAKE THE COOKIE.
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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03 Apr 2015 12:57 AM
You're here to negotiate with me, Synoan. Whether or not I seek their counsel is my own business, like it is your business alone if you want to ask your people what they think. So far as I'm concerned, you simply seem to be trying to dictate your terms to me. Unfortunately, I won't have that.

Is there any particular reason why you think 60 wins is so unfair to RAA, or why it's unfavorable to both parties? If so, say so and stop trying to use popular opinion as a means to "rightness".
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Synoan is not online. Synoan
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03 Apr 2015 12:59 AM
Sorry, I just assumed you cared about your members. After all, that's what you're always preaching.

Let's go with popular opinion, since we're the ones fighting the war. You won't even step foot on the battlefield I bet.
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meankiller7 is not online. meankiller7
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03 Apr 2015 12:59 AM
whats wrong with 75? Im surprised false even wants to go to 75 since hes gonna lose either way
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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03 Apr 2015 01:03 AM
That's a pity, Synoan. Do you actually have an argument for why 60 victories is disfavorable, though I stepped down from 75 at your own behest?
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Synoan is not online. Synoan
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03 Apr 2015 01:05 AM
Because we've already racked up over 200 wins over the past month. We have developmental stuff to do and don't have the patience to spend another month fighting a group that won't even defend 100% of our raids. It'll be a pain in the ass to get to 60. 50 is the max.
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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03 Apr 2015 01:09 AM
That's hardly an argument at all, Synoan. It is not my responsibility to guarantee anything to you when a state of war does not exist between our clans, including late-night defenses and canceled events. Indeed, part of these term negotiations assures that you and I provide these pleasantries to one another.

Furthermore, I might have advised you to develop your clan during the three-week negotiation debacle you continued to prolong. It is not my concern if RAA wants a quick war before development, I am simply here to assuage your desire for a war.

If your clan has achieved 200 victories against UAF over the course of a month, then the war will last fewer than two weeks. With this in mind, I must ask why you are so adamant in preventing such a brief war?
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