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Klink45 is not online. Klink45
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27 Mar 2015 09:43 PM
I'm trying to make a simple program on there, but I'm noticing that 90% of the time everything is really complicated to do. I can't even "clone" something or make something draggable without a few thousand lines of code. It just amazes me that ROBLOX, a game made for CHILDREN, has a draggable option for GUIs but Visual Studio has 9000 lines of code involved. VS doesn't even have a "ZIndex" property which surprised me, anyway, since nobody cares I'll be quiet now.
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IoIiderp is not online. IoIiderp
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27 Mar 2015 09:44 PM
Visual Studio?
Where?
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Klink45 is not online. Klink45
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27 Mar 2015 09:45 PM
As in Microsoft Visual Studio.
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IoIiderp is not online. IoIiderp
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27 Mar 2015 09:46 PM
Okay but what has this to do with ROBLOX?
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Klink45 is not online. Klink45
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27 Mar 2015 09:59 PM
This sub-forum isn't just for talking about ROBLOX, you know.
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Tuneable is not online. Tuneable
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27 Mar 2015 10:00 PM
I'm using Visual C++ (not sure if that's the same thing) and I'm a bit surprised by the lack of necessary controls and properties. I can't even make a simple horizontal or vertical line, instead I have to get a label or something and make it really skinny.

But then again I'm a noob to Visual C++.
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LegendaryAccount is not online. LegendaryAccount
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27 Mar 2015 10:01 PM
The version my school has is Visual Basic and you cant even create a new object button or anything which really limits the use of making something out of it
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AgentFirefox is not online. AgentFirefox
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27 Mar 2015 10:01 PM
What exactly needs to be dragged? You have a form already, and you can create multiple forms. There's no reason to have any part of the form draggable when the form itself can be dragged.
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Klink45 is not online. Klink45
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27 Mar 2015 10:03 PM
@Firefox
I'm trying to make a draggable image, and it seems to be incredibly hard. Here on ROBLOX, I could do exactly what I want with literally a mouse click.
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AgentFirefox is not online. AgentFirefox
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27 Mar 2015 10:04 PM
Why must you drag it?

Also, are you using Visual Basic Studio? Also what year? I have VB Express 2010 and I can load it up for ya to see if I can help.
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Klink45 is not online. Klink45
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27 Mar 2015 10:06 PM
I use VB Express 2010 too, and I would like to make something draggable because it would take forever to do with arrow keys and stuff. But the that's not even my main problem, as I've said, I can't even "Clone" anything deeming VS useless.
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LegendaryAccount is not online. LegendaryAccount
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27 Mar 2015 10:07 PM
I found it funny in my class how bad people were at visual basic. The teacher asks for 2 check boxes to turn the light image on and off using a xor gate.

people were doing 40+ lines of extremely inefficient code while all it needed was 1 line
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AgentFirefox is not online. AgentFirefox
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27 Mar 2015 10:08 PM
You should be able to clone something in the code. Let me see if I can help you out. I'll load up studio and come back.
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AgentFirefox is not online. AgentFirefox
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27 Mar 2015 10:14 PM
Though I must ask .. Why need you copy an object?
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Klink45 is not online. Klink45
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27 Mar 2015 10:15 PM
Let's say I want the user to make multiple of something?
How would I do that without copying an object?
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AgentFirefox is not online. AgentFirefox
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27 Mar 2015 10:16 PM
I don't know what you're even trying to implement, so I don't know.

Normally you wouldn't need to copy anything. What are you trying to do?
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Klink45 is not online. Klink45
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27 Mar 2015 10:23 PM
Let's say I want to make a button clone on ROBLOX so, say, a user can play two sounds at once via a textbutton.
On ROBLOX I could do

local NewGui = SoundGui: Clone()
NewGui.Parent = Game.Players.LocalPlayer.PlayerGui
NewGui.Position = 1337, 1337 --I think I need brackets or quotes here but oh well.

In visual basic, I couldn't even get it to be "cloned"
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AgentFirefox is not online. AgentFirefox
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27 Mar 2015 10:26 PM
No I mean, what are you trying to do that requires the cloning process?
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Klink45 is not online. Klink45
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27 Mar 2015 10:27 PM
I'm trying to make it so a user can clone an image. I've tried

Dim NewImage as new Image

But I'm 90% sure that doesn't work.
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AgentFirefox is not online. AgentFirefox
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27 Mar 2015 10:40 PM
You're not understanding what I'm asking.

What are you trying to make? What does this application do?
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DerProgrammierer is not online. DerProgrammierer
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27 Mar 2015 11:04 PM
"The version my school has is Visual Basic and you cant even create a new object button or anything which really limits the use of making something out of it"

Inherits System.Windows.Forms.Button ?


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Klink45 is not online. Klink45
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27 Mar 2015 11:05 PM
The application itself is a bit of an mp3 player, using the Windows Media Player controls, which works great, but now I want it so if the user wants they can change the position of things by dragging them.
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DerProgrammierer is not online. DerProgrammierer
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27 Mar 2015 11:09 PM
Then why do you need to clone an image?
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Klink45 is not online. Klink45
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27 Mar 2015 11:11 PM
And I need that so the user can clone multiple versions of an image for the same program, I don't know why you need to know this stuff but whatever.
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AgentFirefox is not online. AgentFirefox
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27 Mar 2015 11:12 PM
For context. I still don't know what the heck you're doing.

What image? Dragging what? Dragging where? Where do the images go when they get dragged?

I can't help you if I don't know what you're trying to do. And it seems like you're just refusing to give me the answers to the questions I ask. If you don't answer my questions, I simply can't help you.
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