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Re: Quotes on Freedom

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AnonymousMoostache is not online. AnonymousMoostache
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25 Mar 2015 09:43 PM
The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.
Albert Camus

For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others.
Nelson Mandela

If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

If you're not ready to die for it, put the word 'freedom' out of your vocabulary.
Malcolm X

Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought.
Pope John Paul II

Freedom isn't free.
Thought by many, spoken by few..
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Praetoriane is not online. Praetoriane
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25 Mar 2015 09:47 PM
Ha!

Let me summarize all those quotes by historical meaningful figures.

"You're not all truly free, deal with it. There is no way around it."
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toonman20104 is not online. toonman20104
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25 Mar 2015 09:50 PM
I know not what others may choose but, as for me, give me liberty or give me death.
Patrick Henry

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once.
Robert A. Heinlein

Also Lord Acton, also said
Liberty is not the power of doing what we like, but the right to do what we ought.
This seems quite close to what Pope John Paul II said.
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toonman20104 is not online. toonman20104
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25 Mar 2015 09:52 PM
@Praetoriane
If you want to be free, fly to the moon.
You'll have freedom there but you may not have the ability to breath.

No one is truly free and that's a good thing, I believe is most laws.
But I don't approve of giving up the good things.
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Praetoriane is not online. Praetoriane
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25 Mar 2015 09:56 PM
Sacrifices are necessary in exchange for the civil obedience of all, yes, they are not always good, yes, but the truest freedom is in democratic-socialism. Freedom may not be what you think it is; freedom is a balance of free-will and necessity.
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ZeveI is not online. ZeveI
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25 Mar 2015 09:57 PM
"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."
- George Washington

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson

"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson

"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson

"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson

"On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
- Thomas Jefferson

"I enclose you a list of the killed, wounded, and captives of the enemy from the commencement of hostilities at Lexington in April, 1775, until November, 1777, since which there has been no event of any consequence ... I think that upon the whole it has been about one half the number lost by them, in some instances more, but in others less. This difference is ascribed to our superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having been intimate with his gun from his infancy."
- Thomas Jefferson

“The thoughtful reader may wonder, why wasn’t Jefferson’s proposal of ‘No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms’ adopted by the Virginia legislature? They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin

"To disarm the people...[i]s the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason

"I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers."
- George Mason

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops."
- Noah Webster

"Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of."
- James Madison

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
- James Madison

"...the ultimate authority, wherever the derivative may be found, resides in the people alone..."
- James Madison

"This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty.... The right of self defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction."
- St. George Tucker



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TheChangerDB is not online. TheChangerDB
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25 Mar 2015 09:59 PM
The evils of free will versus the goods of tedious tasks.

Sliding scales.

Sliding scales everywhere.

"Ok. For the sake of argument, let's say you're wrong and money IS everything."
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