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Catzilla99 is not online. Catzilla99
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24 Mar 2015 05:38 PM
playing portugal

majority of city states are allied with me and i have all of patronage tree completed so im going straight for that diplomatic victory

industrial era, one of the top science civs right now

so i'm trying to attack nebbuchadnezzbeard (babylon beard dude who sounds like he's been smoking since infancy)

this guy plays with all the skill of a player, man
he had god tier gold so i tried to hurt him with an embargo that passed, he's still strong
the problem is that his defense is totally untouchable because he's on another continent
his army is small but it's made nearly entirely up of cannons which means that any naval units won't last a turn within range and any unit i land is able to fight one turn then dies
and i had the biggest army + navy at the start of the war and he's in the bottom half
i can't touch him despite nearly every other world power, including neighbors, being at war with him

what do

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darklight63 is not online. darklight63
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24 Mar 2015 05:38 PM
Hack, get nuclear missiles and giant robots.

darklight63, Creator of Maps
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Catzilla99 is not online. Catzilla99
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24 Mar 2015 05:43 PM
"Hack, get nuclear missiles and giant robots."

but here's the problem

playing diplo with both civs and city states meant that i try to avoid taking cities as much as possible, and both of my neighbors are sufficiently powerful. one of my neighbors sweden is managing to fight overseas, but mostly because all of the civs on babylon's continent have very starved militaries due to war with babylon

i actually thought that i would last the whole game without starting a war before babylon war

i actually only have a few cities and not a lot of land, not good chance of uranium (but if any city state has uranium, it's going to me. feitorias, you know)

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Catzilla99 is not online. Catzilla99
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24 Mar 2015 05:51 PM
I'm the first person to get Freedom ideoligy

Got those foreign legion units
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Catzilla99 is not online. Catzilla99
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24 Mar 2015 07:26 PM
so basically my army previously consisted of only janissaries from city states, they were deployed just before i got my riflemen so

which were actually the perfect unit for the job since they could survive more than 1 turn if they kill one of nebby's cannons

but anyways those 6 foreign legions totally won me the war, although it took a while because walls of babylon are a pain in the ass. greece and byzantium also lent me some cannon fire which was fantastic.

but i still lost all of my obsolete units and the bulk of it is those foreign legions and some gatlin guns

i'm thinking about selling the smaller city i captured to a less fortunate civ like the netherlands because i don't need it

i want to move my army to the other side of the world to attack korea because he's a fair amount ahead of me and people are starting to denounce him

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lasagnaX is not online. lasagnaX
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24 Mar 2015 07:28 PM
i know how to help

sell that awful game and buy civilization 3 or 4
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Catzilla99 is not online. Catzilla99
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24 Mar 2015 07:40 PM
"sell that awful game and buy civilization 3 or 4"

you can't just sell a steam game

and this game has been on steam since launch

although we did buy a physical copy at launch but the key can only be used once

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Catzilla99 is not online. Catzilla99
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24 Mar 2015 07:41 PM
aaaand sold to the highest bidder

which is france

i'm happy to be selling a city to an underdog

as long as it doesnt end up having any uranium in it

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lasagnaX is not online. lasagnaX
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24 Mar 2015 07:42 PM
then delete it it's awful lol

the culture thing and ideologies
happiness
cities take more money than they produce 99.9% of the time
civ 3 master race
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Catzilla99 is not online. Catzilla99
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24 Mar 2015 08:11 PM
"the culture thing and ideologies"

i think it's pretty alright

"happiness"

i don't see much problem to happiness
and you get to fight rebel units if you're bad at the game too which is cool

"cities take more money than they produce 99.9% of the time"

that's bad planning mang
my capital's making 200 profit and my second city is at 74
you got to build the right stuff


my dad and i like to play civs and we jumped from civ ii to civ v
you see what the problem is with earlier civs is giant unit stacks and it's definitely a more major change than social policies
well i don't think totally invincible stacks are fun
and while civ v is far from a true strategy game i think earlier civs are even farther from it since you don't get punished for having death stacks
and city states and hexagons
hexagons are cool

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Catzilla99 is not online. Catzilla99
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25 Mar 2015 02:26 PM
I'm worried that I won't be able to attack Korea if he manages to get nukes because then I won't be able to touch him

What I need to do is pillage all of his tiles so he's more occupied with trying to keep his cities from starving than making science

Dont want to capture Seoul because warmongering
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Catzilla99 is not online. Catzilla99
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25 Mar 2015 02:31 PM
So the patronage tree gives me free great units

The one city state where I used the merchant of Venice they gave me has two sources of oil

Yessss
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lasagnaX is not online. lasagnaX
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25 Mar 2015 02:33 PM
lol civ 5 = sht
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lasagnaX is not online. lasagnaX
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25 Mar 2015 02:35 PM
stacks make more sense btw. without it just look at civ v, it clogs up everything and sieges are impossible. also it makes it hard to defend stuff which is why they made the stupid cannon city thing where you can bombard people with giant rocks that are launched from catapults that apparently come as part of the city steam special edition
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DawnMaster is not online. DawnMaster
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25 Mar 2015 02:38 PM
save the game before you attack him, if it doesn't work out go back to that save. if it does work out then gg
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Catzilla99 is not online. Catzilla99
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25 Mar 2015 02:53 PM
"stacks make more sense btw."

yes but this is a game where the goal is to have fun and death stacks are not fun

"without it just look at civ v, it clogs up everything and sieges are impossible."

if you plan your attacks well it can turn out alright

things get clogged when your army is too big

you'll need only 6- 10 units to take a big city and they're not had to move in small numbers

all your units capturing a city from only 1 tile doesn't sound very siege like

"also it makes it hard to defend stuff which is why they made the stupid cannon city thing where you can bombard people with giant rocks that are launched from catapults that apparently come as part of the city steam special edition"

i think it's fair for a civ not be a sitting duck if the city doesn't have units to defend itself with, especially in the case of the defending civ being attacked with naval units and they don't have any on defense
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lasagnaX is not online. lasagnaX
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25 Mar 2015 02:59 PM
the reason you start with a warrior is to defend ur city why do you think they put it there in civ 1
oh wait you only got civ 2 for free off the internet
i know how to make it fair to defend your city when its bombarded by ships
make a navy

lol how big do you think the planet is supposed to be that only one small group of soldiers can stand in a large area and also take up so much land nobody else can move through them

also you dont seem to understand the AI can make stacks too in civ >4
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Catzilla99 is not online. Catzilla99
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25 Mar 2015 03:07 PM
"the reason you start with a warrior is to defend ur city why do you think they put it there in civ 1 "

you need to get those ruins and the religious city states for the pantheon in v tho, and if youre not supposed to be exploring why do the shoshone exist in v

if not someone might be already settling new cities by the time you start exploring

"oh wait you only got civ 2 for free off the internet "

we have the disk version
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lasagnaX is not online. lasagnaX
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25 Mar 2015 03:11 PM
IT DOESNT TAKE LONG TO BUILD A WARRIOR
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Catzilla99 is not online. Catzilla99
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25 Mar 2015 03:16 PM
well I mean I usually don't build warriors in v though

scout > shrine and the rest depends on the circumstance
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lasagnaX is not online. lasagnaX
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25 Mar 2015 03:18 PM
THE WAY THE GAME WORKS HAS TO DEFEND ON MY STRATEGY!!!
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lasagnaX is not online. lasagnaX
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25 Mar 2015 03:19 PM
*depend
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Catzilla99 is not online. Catzilla99
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25 Mar 2015 03:21 PM
"THE WAY THE GAME WORKS HAS TO DEFEND ON MY STRATEGY!!!"

Well if it's about the warrior/scout thing experienced players will always always always get a scout first, just ask them
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lasagnaX is not online. lasagnaX
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25 Mar 2015 03:23 PM
"i dont build warriors that at the start are mainly for defending the city, so they should just always make it so you can defend with a catapult filled with large rocks for all time in 4000 BC!!"
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Catzilla99 is not online. Catzilla99
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25 Mar 2015 03:28 PM
i still think that cities should defend themselves

sorry

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