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Re: Regarding my quarrel with Isolaytor

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XLR is not online. XLR
Joined: 16 Feb 2008
Total Posts: 399
11 Mar 2015 07:00 PM
Isolaytor recently ordered a thumbnail from me to 'hype' VOID for the war with VAC
And that's all the details he gave me
I received a Black Crisis as payment

Here's the finished thumbnail; http://garbagengtxlr.deviantart.com/art/Hellzone-519505355
Apparently that's not what he asked for
but he didn't ask for anything in specific
just >something that will hype VOID

Now he wants another thumbnail for only 2,000
When I declined the order, he called me a scammer and posted a thread (which was later moderated for some unknown reason)

I have screenshots of the chat logs here http://sta.sh/21kmutvdc15h (start from the bottom image)
But if you trust me and wanna make it easier for yourself just look at the censored logs below

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ey I finished
[9:35:47 AM] XLR l Exelar: I'm at school though when I get Internet on my ipad I'll link yoy
[11:00:46 AM] ISOLAYTOR: K
[2:14:28 PM] XLR l Exelar: http://garbagengtxlr.deviantart.com/art/Hell-519505355
[2:14:34 PM] XLR l Exelar: hope you like it
[4:10:01 PM] ISOLAYTOR: this isnt what i asked for at all bro
[4:11:36 PM] XLR l Exelar: what did u ask 4
[4:13:14 PM] XLR l Exelar: On 02/17/2015, at 12:21 PM, ISOLAYTOR wrote:
> I want an epic thumbnail that will hype up the war

On 02/17/2015, at 12:50 PM, ISOLAYTOR wrote:
> just make it epic i'm negotiating with vak atm
[4:13:28 PM] XLR l Exelar: nothing in specific
[4:14:04 PM] ISOLAYTOR: (f-bomb)
[4:14:05 PM] ISOLAYTOR: ok
[4:14:07 PM] ISOLAYTOR: make me another one
[4:14:09 PM] ISOLAYTOR: this time i wans
[4:14:09 PM] ISOLAYTOR: want
[4:14:14 PM] ISOLAYTOR: 2 void guys facing eachother
[4:14:16 PM] ISOLAYTOR: with void guns out
[4:14:21 PM] ISOLAYTOR: and in the background
[4:14:26 PM] ISOLAYTOR: theres a horde of vaktovians
[4:14:28 PM] ISOLAYTOR: u know
[4:14:34 PM] ISOLAYTOR: then in the text make it say
[4:14:40 PM] ISOLAYTOR: "Brothers Until the End
[4:15:31 PM] XLR l Exelar: o
[4:15:34 PM] XLR l Exelar: ok
[4:15:42 PM] ISOLAYTOR: thanks
[4:16:10 PM] XLR l Exelar: ok
[4:16:12 PM] XLR l Exelar: send
[4:16:15 PM] XLR l Exelar: payment
[4:16:51 PM] XLR l Exelar: you'll skip everyone else in line since I already have the void stuff ready
[4:17:10 PM] ISOLAYTOR: ILL TRADE U ANOTHER HAT
[4:17:11 PM] ISOLAYTOR: caps
[4:17:29 PM] XLR l Exelar: k
[4:22:21 PM] XLR l Exelar: you sent 2k
[4:22:24 PM] XLR l Exelar: :l
[4:24:45 PM] ISOLAYTOR: u ask for 750 robux every additional piece
[4:30:59 PM] XLR l Exelar: Onlf if you buy more than two already at the original price
[4:32:20 PM] ISOLAYTOR: dude
[4:32:21 PM] ISOLAYTOR: wt f
[4:32:22 PM] ISOLAYTOR: come on
[4:33:25 PM] XLR l Exelar: On 02/17/2015, at 12:19 PM, XLR l Exelar wrote:
> 5k for one thumbnail

but if you're ordering more than 2
An initial 6K payment, and add +750 robux for every thumbnail

example

I want 5 thumbnails
the math is
6,000 + 5(750)= 9,750 robux
[4:33:39 PM] XLR l Exelar: but you offered 10k instead
[4:33:57 PM] ISOLAYTOR: ok
[4:33:59 PM] ISOLAYTOR: that hat is 11k
[4:34:03 PM] ISOLAYTOR: i just gave u 2k
[4:34:07 PM] ISOLAYTOR: thats 13k
[4:34:13 PM] ISOLAYTOR: 5k+6k
[4:34:19 PM] ISOLAYTOR: thats 11k
[4:34:22 PM] ISOLAYTOR: I gave you
[4:34:25 PM] ISOLAYTOR: A LOT more than 11k
[4:34:27 PM] ISOLAYTOR: I OVERPAYED
[4:34:29 PM] ISOLAYTOR: xD
[4:34:48 PM] XLR l Exelar: there's two types of thumbnails
[4:34:54 PM] XLR l Exelar: standard and premium
[4:34:56 PM] XLR l Exelar: you got
[4:34:58 PM] XLR l Exelar: premium
[4:35:06 PM] XLR l Exelar: 10k+
[4:35:11 PM] XLR l Exelar: I'll give you a standard one
[4:35:15 PM] XLR l Exelar: for 2k
[4:36:37 PM] XLR l Exelar: and by standard I mean
[4:36:52 PM] XLR l Exelar: it's not something I'd like people to know I made
[4:37:22 PM] ISOLAYTOR: ok just make me a thumbnail
[4:41:05 PM] XLR l Exelar: standard?
[4:42:11 PM] ISOLAYTOR: idk
[4:42:17 PM] ISOLAYTOR: make it look good as the other one
[4:43:31 PM] XLR l Exelar: premium
[4:43:37 PM] XLR l Exelar: ok send payment
[4:44:12 PM] ISOLAYTOR: wt f
[4:44:14 PM] ISOLAYTOR: i paid u already
[4:47:11 PM] XLR l Exelar: wat
[4:47:22 PM] XLR l Exelar: the 2k trade
[4:47:28 PM] XLR l Exelar: I haven't accepted it yet
[4:47:50 PM] ISOLAYTOR: ok
[4:47:51 PM] XLR l Exelar: but if I do I'll only make a standard thumbnail which won't be as good as the other
[4:47:52 PM] ISOLAYTOR: accept it
[4:47:55 PM] ISOLAYTOR: no
[4:47:59 PM] ISOLAYTOR: make it as good as the other
[4:48:03 PM] ISOLAYTOR: thats the one that i wanted
[4:48:04 PM] ISOLAYTOR: you (f-bomber)
[4:48:14 PM] XLR l Exelar: You didn't specify in what you wanted
[4:48:19 PM] ISOLAYTOR: ............
[4:48:21 PM] ISOLAYTOR: DO IT
[4:48:24 PM] XLR l Exelar: as far as I'm concerned, it wasn't my fault
[4:48:45 PM] ISOLAYTOR: DO IT
[4:48:59 PM] XLR l Exelar: you're not gonna get anything like that >.>
[4:49:23 PM] ISOLAYTOR: Do it
[4:49:23 PM] XLR l Exelar: You paid me to do an 'epic' thumbnail that would hype
[4:49:25 PM] XLR l Exelar: I did
[4:49:28 PM] ISOLAYTOR: ok that's not epic
[4:49:38 PM] XLR l Exelar: many other people would disagree
[4:49:41 PM] ISOLAYTOR: the customer isn't satisfied
[4:49:44 PM] ISOLAYTOR: that's all that matters
[4:49:49 PM] XLR l Exelar: to who
[4:49:52 PM] ISOLAYTOR: please make the changes i requested
[4:49:57 PM] ISOLAYTOR: as I overpaid in the first place
[4:50:06 PM] XLR l Exelar: That's not changes that's an entirely new thing
[4:50:12 PM] ISOLAYTOR: Ok well
[4:50:13 PM] ISOLAYTOR: Do it
[4:50:26 PM] XLR l Exelar: Overpaid means 20k+
[4:50:36 PM] XLR l Exelar: 10k is premium
[4:50:41 PM] ISOLAYTOR: you are overpaying for work that is not satisfactory
[4:50:43 PM] XLR l Exelar: 5k is standard
[4:50:54 PM] ISOLAYTOR: MAKE ME MY (f- bombing) THUMBNAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[4:51:28 PM] XLR l Exelar: It only doesn't satisfy because it's not exactly what you wanted, BECAUSE YOU DIDNT GIVE ME ANYTHING IN SPECIFIC TO MAKE
[4:52:09 PM] ISOLAYTOR: Please make me another thumbnail
[4:52:25 PM] XLR l Exelar: -.-
[4:53:03 PM] ISOLAYTOR: Come on man
[4:53:06 PM] ISOLAYTOR: Its a historic event
[4:53:56 PM] XLR l Exelar: I did what you paid and told me to do
[4:54:36 PM] ISOLAYTOR: Please make me a differnet one
[4:54:38 PM] ISOLAYTOR: My idea was epic
[4:54:45 PM] XLR l Exelar: Maybe so
[4:54:48 PM] XLR l Exelar: But you said it
[4:54:49 PM] XLR l Exelar: Aftee
[4:54:51 PM] ISOLAYTOR: Come on breo
[4:54:51 PM] ISOLAYTOR: bro
[4:54:53 PM] XLR l Exelar: I made the thing
[4:55:17 PM] XLR l Exelar: you need to fork up some more dough
[4:55:29 PM] ISOLAYTOR: no
[4:55:31 PM] ISOLAYTOR: i have no money
[4:55:34 PM] ISOLAYTOR: make my thumbnail
[4:59:46 PM] XLR l Exelar: you have that ugly helmet
[5:00:10 PM] ISOLAYTOR: i'm not giving that to you you (f-bombing) (lover of the same gender)
[5:00:14 PM] ISOLAYTOR: make the standard one
[5:00:17 PM] ISOLAYTOR: just hope it isnt (poop)
[5:00:27 PM] XLR l Exelar: lol
[5:00:28 PM] XLR l Exelar: ok
[5:05:52 PM] XLR l Exelar: ok my good friend ripint advised me not to take the order
[5:05:58 PM] XLR l Exelar: sorry
[5:05:59 PM] ISOLAYTOR: ..
[5:06:01 PM] ISOLAYTOR: (f-bomb)
[5:06:07 PM] XLR l Exelar: q:
[5:06:14 PM] XLR l Exelar: and btw
[5:06:17 PM] XLR l Exelar: the helmet
[5:06:21 PM] XLR l Exelar: is ugly
[5:06:31 PM] XLR l Exelar: what are you trying to look like
[5:06:44 PM] XLR l Exelar: a mutilated monster?
[5:06:52 PM] ISOLAYTOR: (f-BOMB) you (black person)
[5:06:56 PM] XLR l Exelar: omg
[5:06:59 PM] ISOLAYTOR: I'm adding you to my scammerl ist
[5:07:09 PM] XLR l Exelar: i didn't scam though
[5:07:30 PM] XLR l Exelar: I made you your damn thumbnail
[5:07:57 PM] ISOLAYTOR: Scammer.
[5:08:07 PM] XLR l Exelar: -.-
[5:08:18 PM] ISOLAYTOR: http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=157641497
[5:08:22 PM] XLR l Exelar: i actually expected a better attitude from yoy
[5:08:25 PM] XLR l Exelar: you
[5:08:33 PM] XLR l Exelar: considering you're older than me
[5:08:33 PM] ISOLAYTOR: I expected a better attitude from YOU
[5:08:51 PM] XLR l Exelar: and you're the leader of a respected clan
[5:10:12 PM] ISOLAYTOR: Yes.
[5:10:18 PM] ISOLAYTOR: I don't associate with scammers.
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DemonTitan is not online. DemonTitan
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11 Mar 2015 07:01 PM
ISOLAYTOR wants something that makes VAK look like weak idiots so he can show how tough HIVE is!!!!!!
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ice180 is not online. ice180
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11 Mar 2015 07:02 PM

the length of that chag though
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ISOLAYTOR is not online. ISOLAYTOR
Joined: 26 Jun 2011
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11 Mar 2015 07:02 PM
I was kidding budddy but make the standard one
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ice180 is not online. ice180
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11 Mar 2015 07:03 PM

chat*
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6u9 is not online. 6u9
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11 Mar 2015 07:03 PM
You're in the right here.

You declining a thumbnail request doesn't make you a scammer - Just because he didn't like the first one for whatever reason (considering it's amazing), doesn't mean you didn't deliver the product he paid for.

- 6u9; Graphic Designer
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KaneTitan is not online. KaneTitan
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11 Mar 2015 07:04 PM
^ lol
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KaneTitan is not online. KaneTitan
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11 Mar 2015 07:05 PM
the "^" was to iso @"6u9"

heh
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Killicide is not online. Killicide
Joined: 08 May 2010
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11 Mar 2015 07:09 PM
Your pictures are good but over-priced and not worth what you say they are.

I am going to have to agree with ISOLAYTOR on this one,

every GFX I have was made for free, and every time I ask the guy who makes them he tells me it's not that hard

just get a little pose going in blender or whatever program you're using

render

effect spam

Black crisis is well worth at least 5 of those thumbnails

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TheOriginalElmerz is not online. TheOriginalElmerz
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11 Mar 2015 07:11 PM
ok
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Vaul is not online. Vaul
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11 Mar 2015 07:12 PM
For 11k item you should be able to redo a thumbnail if it's not liked.
I mean, 11k is a LOT.
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XLR is not online. XLR
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Total Posts: 399
11 Mar 2015 07:15 PM
if you werent too lazy to read the logs

you'd notice HE OFFERED black crisis
and its not that he didn't like it
its that he wanted a new one because he just got a new idea
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Codite is not online. Codite
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11 Mar 2015 07:16 PM
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DeptiNoxx is not online. DeptiNoxx
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11 Mar 2015 07:18 PM
Made me laugh, way to go XLR and he's not a damn scammer go away!




In God We Trust, but how much does he trust in us?
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Killicide is not online. Killicide
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11 Mar 2015 07:20 PM
'I received a Black Crisis as payment '
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Killicide is not online. Killicide
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11 Mar 2015 07:23 PM
Not that I am defending him or going against you,

I just think from my own personal views, a Black Crisis is worth alot more than just 1 GFX.

However your stuff is still really good, nice job.
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devDave is not online. devDave
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11 Mar 2015 07:23 PM
ok make me one now, ill take any
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Redsoxs4 is not online. Redsoxs4
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11 Mar 2015 07:25 PM
Pretty good graphics work tbh, that would hype me for the war if I was in VAK or VOID.
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XLR is not online. XLR
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11 Mar 2015 07:25 PM
fhfhfhfh i forgot i only put the logs of after i finished it
http://sta.sh/21i7pqvvx1ms?edit=1

^ proof he offered
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devDave is not online. devDave
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11 Mar 2015 07:27 PM
ok he ordered 2, 1 for him, and 1 for me
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Killicide is not online. Killicide
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11 Mar 2015 07:27 PM
5k is still alot dude

but I can understand where you're coming from

barely any people on this game use that kind of style for their thumbnails so it's in high demand and basically easy money

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XLR is not online. XLR
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11 Mar 2015 07:29 PM
and as demand booms through my roof
so does my prices
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meankiller7 is not online. meankiller7
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11 Mar 2015 07:29 PM
lol if he offered black crisis which is about 10k value then he should be getting 2 since you said each one was 5k.
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Killicide is not online. Killicide
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11 Mar 2015 07:32 PM
Yeah it's a good way to make fast money, I can't even tell you how many PMs I get each week from people offering extremely high prices for thumbnails.

Everytime someone asks me to make them thumbnails (I don't actually make them, the guy who makes them wants to remain anonymous) I'll just re-direct them to you for now on :)

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XLR is not online. XLR
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11 Mar 2015 07:34 PM
My floor prices are 5k, but people are free to offer more.

Like Berezaa gave me 40k for one thumbnail
and 15k for an ad

And Iso said he only wanted one
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