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Re: Add 'Petition' to the WNTS

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trainyay is not online. trainyay
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07 Mar 2015 08:12 PM
Some people think that putting 'Petition' would make more people view their post. Also, what is the use of a petition with a hundred signatures?
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GOKNICKSGO is not online. GOKNICKSGO
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07 Mar 2015 09:03 PM
Support!
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BilltheTeddyBear is not online. BilltheTeddyBear
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07 Mar 2015 09:11 PM
Why isn't "Dumb, completely stupid ideas" on the WNTS?

Because this would fall into that.
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trainyay is not online. trainyay
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07 Mar 2015 09:20 PM
Explain how this is dumb.
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valg is not online. valg
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07 Mar 2015 09:49 PM
Because BilltheTeddyBear is.
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BilltheTeddyBear is not online. BilltheTeddyBear
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09 Mar 2015 09:45 PM
Because saying 'dumb' makes me dumb. Indeed.

Petition is a form of gathering support, practically everything in the S&I forum is a petition, because people 'sign' it and show their support by saying 'Support'.

And putting petition is acknowledging that... Okeydokey?

And you can't just WNTS because people think that saying a word will make others view their post -.-
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trainyay is not online. trainyay
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10 Mar 2015 05:11 PM
"Because saying 'dumb' makes me dumb. Indeed."
True

"Petition is a form of gathering support, practically everything in the S&I forum is a petition, because people 'sign' it and show their support by saying 'Support'."
Petitions are just written to make people think that the staff are more likely to see it

"And putting petition is acknowledging that... Okeydokey?"
Petitions are just written to make people think that the staff are more likely to see it

"And you can't just WNTS because people think that saying a word will make others view their post -.-"
Well people would still tell them it's WNTS
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catman8321 is not online. catman8321
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10 Mar 2015 05:14 PM

Isn't this a petition?

And Death Row is Still the Label that Pays Me!
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trainyay is not online. trainyay
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10 Mar 2015 05:15 PM
It's not. It's a suggestion to add petitions to the WNTS.
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catman8321 is not online. catman8321
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10 Mar 2015 05:17 PM

Like billy said "Petition is a form of gathering support, practically everything in the S&I forum is a petition, because people 'sign' it and show their support by saying 'Support'" This makes this a petition w/o the [Petition] tacked on the title.

And Death Row is Still the Label that Pays Me!
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BilltheTeddyBear is not online. BilltheTeddyBear
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10 Mar 2015 08:14 PM
And do you not want support to make petitioning a WNTS?

You right now are petitioning
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PancakeChop is not online. PancakeChop
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10 Mar 2015 08:17 PM
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BilltheTeddyBear is not online. BilltheTeddyBear
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10 Mar 2015 08:19 PM
What does it mean when you sign something? That you're showing support. Get this many 'supports' and you're golden.


Well, since you can't literally sign something... You log into your account, post a support with your name included and everything!

It is signing, pretty much.
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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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10 Mar 2015 09:21 PM
And when has ever a petition worked?

I support train
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BilltheTeddyBear is not online. BilltheTeddyBear
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10 Mar 2015 09:40 PM
It works all the time.

You guys aren't seeing it.

Google's definition of PETITION:

a written request, typically one signed by many people, appealing to authority with respect to a particular cause


make or present a formal request to (an authority) with respect to a particular cause

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See that? "A written request" not something that has the "[Petition]" tacked onto it. "Typically" signed by many people, and I'll tell you this: people writing 'support' on their account (Guess what guys, username is like a name! You're practically signing it when you say support, if you want to say all petitions require names)

"appealing to authority with respect to a particular cause"

meaning you'd like something to happen...

Oh remind you of anything?

That's right! You're petitioning now to have this supported! And every single threat in S&I is a written request asking 'authorities' (ROBLOX) for a ... thing (Like WNTS Petitions) and you're asking many people to show their support, AKA Write on their accounts (name) that they support you.

Do you see now?
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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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10 Mar 2015 09:42 PM
@Bill
Examples:

[PETITION] Change the picture of badges- Failed
[PETITION] Remove friends and followers- Failed
[PETITION] Change back the home screen- Failed
[PETITION] Change back the site screen- Failed
[PETITION] Remove price floor- Failed
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BilltheTeddyBear is not online. BilltheTeddyBear
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10 Mar 2015 09:45 PM
@Dark

Lowering Price Floors - Worked

Group Shops - Worked

Group Currencies - Worked

Personal Servers- Worked
/VIP Servers

Game Gear - Worked

etc, etc


Dark, when each of those ideas came out, the people asked for others support. Do you know what a petition is? Asking for support. If enough people want it, the devs are going to look at it.

And enough people wanted lower prices floors, group shops, currencies, personal servers, game gear, universes, etc, etc. Those ideas came out multiple times and many people signed them, by saying 'support'

What about this is hard for you to get?
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BillNyetheBuildinGuy is not online. BillNyetheBuildinGuy
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10 Mar 2015 09:48 PM
@BilltheTeddyBear

is correct (And not just because we share names as Bill)



Petitioning is asking for support for written requests and that's exactly what's going on in the Suggestions & Ideas forum.
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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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10 Mar 2015 09:53 PM
@Bill
You don't seem to get it

I named petitions that were asking to remove an update.

And those stuff that worked weren't petitions.

All the petitions regarding the price floor wanted it removed. It was criticized so hard they lowered it.
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BilltheTeddyBear is not online. BilltheTeddyBear
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10 Mar 2015 09:57 PM
Dark,

everything you listed is a WNTS thing (Undoing massive updates)

of course they never would have worked.

And they were petitions, they just didn't tack "Petition" to the name.

Weren't they asking for support from other people, if you get enough of us threatening ROBLOX that they'd leave and all that that ROBLOX would get a bit nervous? ROBLOX wants the money, that's what they were in this for.

And you proved my point... it worked a bit because enough people wanted it and supported all those petitions for it.
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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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10 Mar 2015 10:02 PM
@Bill

That's what I was trying to show you...
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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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10 Mar 2015 10:03 PM
@Bill

You proved my point as well
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trainyay is not online. trainyay
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11 Mar 2015 08:27 AM
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nobbers12345 is not online. nobbers12345
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11 Mar 2015 08:40 AM
Petitions are effectively spam at some point.

"Add your name below if you agree!
-nubop
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Fill that with an entire thread while it keeps on growing is just a soreness to the eye.

Also, this is not a petition. This is a forum for open discussion about an issue, specifically whether petitions are of any use here.. You don't get to do that with a signature.

SHADDAP YA TABLE
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BilltheTeddyBear is not online. BilltheTeddyBear
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11 Mar 2015 09:39 PM
Petitions are spam at some point?

Then let's remove this S&I forum. It's all spam, after all.


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And what don't you understand? Petitioning is asking people to support an idea you have, so if you get enough people that want it, it has a chance at happening


Tell me how that is completely unlike the S&I forum and this very thread?
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