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Unclear is not online. Unclear
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08 Mar 2015 08:09 PM
It seems like for the most part, many people are confused, me included. This is a thread to sort of remedy this and open the floor up for discussion from developers and non-developers alike. I am open to your ideas.


After a long amount of discussion and thinking, I have decided that I want to use CDG as a relatively open clan developer environment aiming to encourage clan developers to share their content and push each other to strive new goals through discussion, posing questions, and gaining connections. I strongly believe in the power of interaction in accelerating basic skills, so this is why I am supporting this front to CDG's development as a group.


I will start off by saying that the clan development field is immensely complex that probably should not be boiled down to a few select groups, however for the sake of administration and organization CDG will be summarizing development as scripting, building, and art.


We will be inviting ALL clan developers to join CDG very soon. However, this will occur only after a tiered system is decided upon. The requirements of such will be gathered from this open discussion and large panels between the current members of CDG within 24-48 hours, which I invited to assist in shaping this idea from the ground up (speaking of which, if you are currently in CDG and do not know how to contact me, please talk to CoffeeFlux).


If you have any comments or questions, feel free to post them. I want this to be an open dialog so we can create a strong development community.
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3eh is not online. 3eh
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08 Mar 2015 08:10 PM
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Deathux is not online. Deathux
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08 Mar 2015 08:11 PM
you should add me on skype ayyyyyyyyy

heil helix
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Unclear is not online. Unclear
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08 Mar 2015 08:12 PM
@Liam

Added.
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Polymorphic is online. Polymorphic
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08 Mar 2015 08:12 PM
"However, this will occur only after a tiered system is decided upon."

I really hope you don't mean you're going to separate people by relative skill. You're only contributing to the ever growing egos of a few people in this community, and going to worsen things rather than improve anything.
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DonFeskeral is not online. DonFeskeral
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08 Mar 2015 08:12 PM
"After a long amount of discussion and thinking, I have decided that I want to use CDG as a relatively open clan developer environment aiming to encourage clan developers to share their content and push each other to strive new goals through discussion, posing questions, and gaining connections."

can't you do that on the forums lol
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Unclear is not online. Unclear
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08 Mar 2015 08:15 PM
@DonFeskeral

I don't really think this is the appropriate place to conduct discussions like that and would much prefer a location with that focus as a priority rather than the collective C&G forum.
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Adam335 is not online. Adam335
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08 Mar 2015 08:16 PM
Does this mean you plan on helping people get better at development, like you were going to do with Clan Development Academy?
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richyard is not online. richyard
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08 Mar 2015 08:17 PM
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LegendSoul12 is not online. LegendSoul12
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08 Mar 2015 08:18 PM
"However, this will occur only after a tiered system is decided upon."

I really hope you don't mean you're going to separate people by relative skill. You're only contributing to the ever growing egos of a few people in this community, and going to worsen things rather than improve anything. (2)

still this seems cool

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Unclear is not online. Unclear
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08 Mar 2015 08:20 PM
@Poly

I mean tier as in moderation and administration and the likes. While this should be relatively low-maintenance, approval of members is something that should be maintained to avoid cluttering the group with spam and the likes.

A possible solution would be making it open to join (which I do not disapprove of) with an observer rank, in which case I would still need a moderation team to go through requests and promote developers appropriately.

What do you think about that?
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Unclear is not online. Unclear
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08 Mar 2015 08:20 PM
@richyard

While I do think you're an amazing developer and person, I really dislike how you support a sort of selective elitism, it's sort of disgusting. :|
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Unclear is not online. Unclear
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08 Mar 2015 08:22 PM
@Adam

It won't be hands-on teaching more-so than an open discussion that may involve some teaching. I personally will stop answering questions on C&G and will focus on answering questions posed in CDG with tutorials and pertinent information. The information space is a lot smaller, but I think it will result in more questions being asked more and richer answers.
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richyard is not online. richyard
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08 Mar 2015 08:23 PM
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Adam335 is not online. Adam335
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08 Mar 2015 08:23 PM
Okay, sounds good.
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DonFeskeral is not online. DonFeskeral
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08 Mar 2015 08:23 PM
Hmm fair enough when it opens I'll see if I can get in
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Unclear is not online. Unclear
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08 Mar 2015 08:23 PM
@richyard

Oh dude, this isn't a collaboration group at all and CDG never was... haha. This is a guild community, not a development team or anything like that.
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CoffeeFlux is not online. CoffeeFlux
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08 Mar 2015 08:24 PM
My personal opinion is that this ought to be run the same way that EBR is, except for clan developers. Have the owner, Admins, Moderators, and members. Admittance to the group would show that you're one of the top clan developers. Separate the ranks into Scripter, Builder, and Artist. You apply to a Moderator for one of those ranks, if they think your stuff is worth bothering with it's put up for a vote. In the case of crossovers, you apply for what you're best at or want to be most visible for.

Just my thoughts, though. Do what you will.


~CoffeeFlux. For you.
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bohdan77 is not online. bohdan77
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08 Mar 2015 08:24 PM
Everyone has an ego, richyard.

I guess you don't like working with people in general.
How do you stand yourself?
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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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08 Mar 2015 08:25 PM
When I first heard of your idea, I was imagining it would be a group of developers who involve themselves in the clan world and would be there as a symbol to nondevelopers in the community that they were open to supporting them.

I'd say it should be more-so a group of people interested in supporting the clan community and helping it grow.

They can charge (it's only reasonable,) but for an example here:
Someone who leads a clan/a development group within C&G messages you or an administrator, asking for some support and offering potential payment. That request would be processed through the group and a respective developer who is available could be assigned on the project proposed.
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DonFeskeral is not online. DonFeskeral
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08 Mar 2015 08:25 PM
Idk I think the idea of a place for devs to get together even if they aren't the best would be better

If you're really good your stuff should speak for itself imo
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richyard is not online. richyard
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08 Mar 2015 08:25 PM
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Fedoratipping is not online. Fedoratipping
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08 Mar 2015 08:26 PM
can you guys develop a way to fix interpoliation


it's getting annoying and i doubt roblox will do anything about it
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bohdan77 is not online. bohdan77
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08 Mar 2015 08:27 PM
'can you guys develop a way to fix interpoliation'
You can't fix something that isn't broken.
And it's interpolation. It's a feature.
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Unclear is not online. Unclear
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08 Mar 2015 08:28 PM
@rich

Criticism, as long as it isn't overly aggressive, will _always_ be encouraged in CDG. It's the main way people improve, after all.
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