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Re: [ROCKPORT] Bill did nothing!

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NoobletNub is online. NoobletNub
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03 Mar 2015 06:18 PM
Alright, so all you people trying to impeach bill read this. I'll start 1 by 1 with the "problems" you found.

HLS tryouts not having IAC or NSC there.

Alright EO #7 states this

"SECTION II. The Internal Affairs Committee and National Security Committee shall investigate the training practices and operations of HLS to ensure accuracy and relevance. They shall report directly to the Governor."

Alright, so you guys said it's against EO #7 that "you can't host tryouts without IAC or NSC." Well, Section II only states that IAC and NSC only goes to HLS TRAININGS, not tryouts. It never mentioned it was needed in tryouts. Don't believe me? Here's Executive Order #7, NOW READ IT CAREFULLY.

http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=157040036

Shutting down HLS

He never did that, he reformed all of HLS due to abuse. He than put the Capitol on lockdown due to there being no HLS. He than started hosting HLS tryouts.

Removal of FOS

First off,those pictures of bill deleting those post were probably because of spam. Also, Section B of Amendment I of the Rockport Const. states "Freedom of Speech is excluded at the Governor’s discretion if it is negative to the Executive branch or its departments."

Also, link to Amendment I, read section B carefully.

http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=157026427

Bill admin abusing

SHOW. ME. PROOF.

That's all I have to say, kbai!

duct tape + lard = lard tape -NoobletNub, ex-Senator of Rockport,current HoR of Rockport
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NoobletNub is online. NoobletNub
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03 Mar 2015 06:22 PM
Edited, looked a bit messy.

Alright, so all you people trying to impeach bill read this. I'll start 1 by 1 with the "problems" you found.

-HLS tryouts not having IAC or NSC there.

Alright EO #7 states this

"SECTION II. The Internal Affairs Committee and National Security Committee shall investigate the training practices and operations of HLS to ensure accuracy and relevance. They shall report directly to the Governor."

Alright, so you guys said it's against EO #7 that "you can't host tryouts without IAC or NSC." Well, Section II only states that IAC and NSC only goes to HLS TRAININGS, not tryouts. It never mentioned it was needed in tryouts. Don't believe me? Here's Executive Order #7, NOW READ IT CAREFULLY.

http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=157040036

-Shutting down HLS

He never did that, he reformed all of HLS due to abuse. He than put the Capitol on lockdown due to there being no HLS. He than started hosting HLS tryouts.

-Removal of FOS

First off,those pictures of bill deleting those post were probably because of spam. Also, Section B of Amendment I of the Rockport Const. states "Freedom of Speech is excluded at the Governor’s discretion if it is negative to the Executive branch or its departments."

Also, link to Amendment I, read section B carefully.

http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=157026427

-Bill admin abusing

SHOW. ME. PROOF.

That's all I have to say, kbai!

duct tape + lard = lard tape -NoobletNub, ex-Senator of Rockport,current HoR of Rockport

duct tape + lard = lard tape -NoobletNub, ex-Senator of Rockport,current HoR of Rockport
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03 Mar 2015 06:26 PM
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NoobletNub is online. NoobletNub
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03 Mar 2015 06:30 PM
[FOUND SOMETHING NEW]

-People saying Bill is controlling HLS

He kinda can, because HLS is an Executive Department, and the Gov is the head of the executive branch.

duct tape + lard = lard tape -NoobletNub, ex-Senator of Rockport,current HoR of Rockport
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iCelestiger is not online. iCelestiger
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03 Mar 2015 06:39 PM
Thank god.... people can't learn to friggin' read.
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Rolerain is not online. Rolerain
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03 Mar 2015 06:49 PM
Ironically, I don't think I've seen a real life Governor ever put himself at risk to work in an agency such as Homeland Security, and still work in the position as the Governor at the same time. It is really the Secretary of Homeland Security's job to manage HLS. Yes Bill is the head of the Executive Branch, but that still does not mean he can control a Department's daily operations and freely do whatever he wants as he pleases. (-shmee8)
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NoobletNub is online. NoobletNub
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03 Mar 2015 07:14 PM
WaterLostic sent me some pictures of bill "aaing" so I say:

HLS HAS NO AA LIST. Also, WaterLostic could've been disrupting the tryouts, as the logs shown are admin logs. Also, WaterLostic obviously used admin (the fact he got the logs), which you can't use during this training or on the Citizens team.

duct tape + lard = lard tape -NoobletNub, ex-Senator of Rockport,current HoR of Rockport
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Shmee8 is not online. Shmee8
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03 Mar 2015 07:15 PM
Now regarding the Freedom of Speech issue,
I am pretty sure most of you are familiar with the Westboro Baptist Church Supreme Court case, yes?
This is to set an example to what is considered freedom of speech.
If you are unfamiliar with this case, type in google images "Westboro baptist church protests." Let's just say they said some pretty nasty things.
The Supreme Court ruled in the Church's favor for protesting at a person's funeral. (Some details I can't go into detail here, google the case.)
They deemed the "hate protests" as acts of freedom of speech. Therefore saying freedom of speech is not limited.
In the constitution it is basically say bill can limit freedom of speech if it insults him in any way, which limits our freedom of speech. I would suggest to congress to change that part of the amendment as it does limit our free speech. It's not like Obama cares or does anything about the millions of insults thrown at him.. They are technically protected under freedom of speech. Typically we are to follow precedents like that court case to help figure out what is protected under free speech.

Now for my final point, I am not saying this is true but Bill may have referred to the Sedition acts in 1789 which would allow him to basically limit freedom of speech if the comments insulted a high government official like himself.
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NoobletNub is online. NoobletNub
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03 Mar 2015 07:45 PM
@shemee I get where your coming from, I'll make a amendment to remove that amendment form the Const

duct tape + lard = lard tape -NoobletNub, ex-Senator of Rockport,current HoR of Rockport
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NoobletNub is online. NoobletNub
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03 Mar 2015 07:47 PM
^ limit that amendment*

duct tape + lard = lard tape -NoobletNub, ex-Senator of Rockport,current HoR of Rockport
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03 Mar 2015 07:55 PM
dont really know who to support,


but bill has not done anything wrong,

#supportbill
this time
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chiken777 is not online. chiken777
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03 Mar 2015 08:16 PM
Adolf Bill has made to many enemies that he can't deal with all of them, he needs to learn to be a real leader not a AAer cowering in a corner writing EOs to stop him from getting impeached.
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NoobletNub is online. NoobletNub
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03 Mar 2015 08:17 PM
@chiken So your saying?

duct tape + lard = lard tape -NoobletNub, ex-Senator of Rockport,current HoR of Rockport
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03 Mar 2015 08:17 PM
Support, Keep Bill
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Zexagonal is not online. Zexagonal
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03 Mar 2015 08:30 PM
As for the screenshots given by WaterLostic, I have an explanation for.

The screenshots can be found here: http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=157151604


Yesterday (March 2), there was an HLS tryout, and WaterLostic was in it. He had admin there, so bill or keem couldn't ban him. They attempted to ban WaterLostic for misbehavior at the beginning of the tryout. Secondly, because the ban wasn't working, they kicked, jailed, and did whatever to make Water leave. In the screenshots provided, one of them has keemobo telling bill in a private message that WaterLostic is causing too much BS.


I was there during the tryouts and saw everything with my own eyes. For those complaining, I don't think it's really valid by just a couple screenshots, hiding out everything else. This is pretty much biased images as they did not show what waterlostic did that made bill and kee do those actions.


Support Bill, do not kick him out.


Thanks.



- Senator Zexagonal
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NoobletNub is online. NoobletNub
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03 Mar 2015 08:35 PM
Thanks for helping clearing this case Zexagonal!

So we found AA irrelevant, there's really nothing in bill's case now.

duct tape + lard = lard tape -NoobletNub, ex-Senator of Rockport,current HoR of Rockport
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Zexagonal is not online. Zexagonal
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03 Mar 2015 08:37 PM
Aight, no problem. Anytime.

- Senator Zexagonal
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keemobobo is not online. keemobobo
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03 Mar 2015 08:39 PM
Bill did nothing wrong.. He was simply trying to host a tryout, as to which a suspended person came in, still admined (due to trello neglect) and disturbed the tryout.

We really didnt break any rules..
Where dat AA clause? oright, there isn't one.
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keemobobo is not online. keemobobo
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03 Mar 2015 08:44 PM
May i also add that :

all evidence given in the case was taken by the suspended user.
This user does not have the right to use admin in non TRC teams, and msot certainly in non TRC games.

By running :logs he used admin.

Lets translate this to world word : he stole evidence
In the real world, stolen evidence gets dismissed.

All evidence was technically stolen, thus invalid.
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NoobletNub is online. NoobletNub
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04 Mar 2015 03:35 PM
Still spreading this around, even though the impeachment was called off.

duct tape + lard = lard tape -NoobletNub, ex-Senator of Rockport,current HoR of Rockport
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InsidersNetwork1001 is online. InsidersNetwork1001
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04 Mar 2015 05:08 PM
Wait, Let just protest(Support)


Signed,InsidersNetwork1001
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IceBreaker768 is not online. IceBreaker768
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04 Mar 2015 05:18 PM
BILL SHOULD BE IMPEACHED. HE AA'S ALL OVER ROCKPORT.
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iEjobs is not online. iEjobs
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04 Mar 2015 05:32 PM
Since this has been going on, I've been on Bill's side. I really like the cleverness of this post. This shows proof that Bill clearly did nothing wrong. I am extremely glad that LordKurloz decided to call off the trial.

It is true that WaterLostic ISN'T a congressman, so he has no say if Bill is impeached or not. I don't know why people said he was shutting down HLS, shutting it down is removing every single person including Bill himself. That clearly didn't happen, all Bill did was reform the department which was needed.



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