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| 27 Feb 2015 05:40 PM |
I can say it's watermelon green and maroon
That doesn't change the fact that it's actually black and blue and only appears to be changing colors due to lighting |
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DDude642
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| 27 Feb 2015 05:42 PM |
i like the fact that it's spiraled out of proportion so that it's getting major news coverage over topical events like the ferguson protests and police brutality from 2014
did i say like? i meant hate |
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| 27 Feb 2015 05:43 PM |
| DDude! Exactly! People need to get their priorities straight, and I'm glad that somebody else actually sees this! |
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| 27 Feb 2015 05:44 PM |
They already posted it was blue and black on some blog
I don't get why people think it's gold and white they must be colorblind |
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Jmanfh
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| 27 Feb 2015 05:45 PM |
@ddude
well if you use the temporary obsession with this as an oppurtunity to point out how people don't care about other important stuff, that's not fair |
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| 27 Feb 2015 05:49 PM |
@jman
It's the fact that celebrities and ridiculous viral junk receive more news coverage than actually important world events which effect everybody
With this time that people are bickering over some stupid dress that went viral (which just shows how stupid people are in the first place), they could be updating the public about events overseas or even here at home
(not sure where you are anyways, but im in america so yea) |
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| 27 Feb 2015 05:53 PM |
news flash: humans tend to care about what hits closer to home to them
whenever people try to make the argument about how the news never covers tragic stories over seas, like in the middle east or africa for example, it confuses me because they do. except the standard for "tragic" vary because people die over there everyday. 10 people dying from a bombing in the middle east has become somewhat normal. people are desensitized to that kind of stuff, and for you to claim that people just don't care that's not fair. just because at the moment people are priortizing a phenomenon over something tragic that is happening across the ocean that happens nearly every day doesn't mean they don't care
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| 27 Feb 2015 05:57 PM |
"news flash: humans tend to care about what hits closer to home to them
whenever people try to make the argument about how the news never covers tragic stories over seas, like in the middle east or africa for example, it confuses me because they do. except the standard for "tragic" vary because people die over there everyday. 10 people dying from a bombing in the middle east has become somewhat normal. people are desensitized to that kind of stuff, and for you to claim that people just don't care that's not fair. just because at the moment people are priortizing a phenomenon over something tragic that is happening across the ocean that happens nearly every day doesn't mean they don't care"
If they want to care about something close to home, there are tons of news stories that they could find to report on here at home. Whether it be anything actually important in government, the latest murder, or perhaps even someone doing good in their neighborhood. Those types of things are far more news deserving rather than some ignorant people arguing over the color of a dress in an online picture (because photoshop and photo filters totally don't exist)... |
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| 27 Feb 2015 05:59 PM |
| but again, you're claiming that people are horrible just because they're not devoting their entire attention span to something that you consider tragic. you have to remember that all humans are innately a bit selfish. and it's not wrong to care more about something you find intriguing (this dress phenomenon) than to care about someone who was murdered last week in idaho. it's sad of course, but not enough to make even national news, and rightfully so. |
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| 27 Feb 2015 06:01 PM |
"but again, you're claiming that people are horrible just because they're not devoting their entire attention span to something that you consider tragic. you have to remember that all humans are innately a bit selfish. and it's not wrong to care more about something you find intriguing (this dress phenomenon) than to care about someone who was murdered last week in idaho. it's sad of course, but not enough to make even national news, and rightfully so."
I didn't say stuff that people only consider tragic. I'm saying that there could be generally more productive and informative segments. |
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| 27 Feb 2015 06:02 PM |
| *and stuff that actually matters and has importance |
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| 27 Feb 2015 06:02 PM |
> humans tend to care about what hits closer to home to them
if we're gonna use that stance can i bring up the events of ferguson, seeing as ferguson -> missouri -> america
the ferguson debacle didn't get media coverage until months after mike brown was shot
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| 27 Feb 2015 06:03 PM |
its blck n blu k gt yo eys strait
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| 27 Feb 2015 06:08 PM |
"I didn't say stuff that people only consider tragic. I'm saying that there could be generally more productive and informative segments."
but this dress thing, some people find fun. it promotes a productive conversation and has intrigued many people, and explanations have been produced. i'd say it's pretty productive. it's science. it's informative. also, lets say the news of a bombing in iraq where 5 people died made national news. what kind of production do we get from that? other than "oh right, the middle east sucks". sure, it's informative, but we already know that kind of stuff happens.
"the ferguson debacle didn't get media coverage until months after mike brown was shot"
like i said earlier, the killing of one person that you don't know tends to not be so imporant in your mind, atleast not mine. sure it's sad, but it's not something i want to care about. the shooting took place in august, and it didn't make news coverage until about november. but it did make the news, it made world wide news. so i think this example is kind of irrelevant.
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| 27 Feb 2015 06:13 PM |
""I didn't say stuff that people only consider tragic. I'm saying that there could be generally more productive and informative segments."
but this dress thing, some people find fun. it promotes a productive conversation and has intrigued many people, and explanations have been produced. i'd say it's pretty productive. it's science. it's informative. also, lets say the news of a bombing in iraq where 5 people died made national news. what kind of production do we get from that? other than "oh right, the middle east sucks". sure, it's informative, but we already know that kind of stuff happens."
You seem to be focused on my first point on where I said overseas stuff, but you also completely ignored my other point where I stated we could talk about happenings here at home such as people doing good deeds. The dress conversation isn't productive, because it doesn't PRODUCE anything. Nothing altering comes from it to change people's views on events that matter, it doesn't inspire anybody to do anything good for another person, it just has done nothing but create argument and "scientific" analysis was pointless because the effort could be used better for literally ANYTHING. |
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| 27 Feb 2015 06:20 PM |
"ignored my other point where I stated we could talk about happenings here at home such as people doing good deeds."
not all good deeds make news, and that's for a good reason. if someone is truly doing a good deed, they're most likely selfless and don't go to a news station trying to get in a story of their great deed just for the recognition. however, if they are recognized but somebody else, a lot of times it does make news, atleast local news. there are plenty of people doing good things that make the news, but again, sometimes people just don't care (rightfully so).
and the dress controversy did produce conversation, which produced scientific information. like you said, you wished the news would be a medium for information, and it is. i learned stuff from this dress, and so did many millions of other people. just because it doesn't necessarily do anything useful to society, doesn't make it any less important.
you have to also realize social media is a pivitol part of the news. since social media, news has spread way faster. social media is also a medium for people to express their views, on what they like/don't like/care about/don't care about. the first person who mentioned the dress obviously instated curiosity in the people who first viewed it, and it spread like that. it spreads because people want it to spread. people are legitimately interested in it, and i don't see why thats such a bad thing |
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| 27 Feb 2015 06:33 PM |
""ignored my other point where I stated we could talk about happenings here at home such as people doing good deeds."
not all good deeds make news, and that's for a good reason. if someone is truly doing a good deed, they're most likely selfless and don't go to a news station trying to get in a story of their great deed just for the recognition. however, if they are recognized but somebody else, a lot of times it does make news, atleast local news. there are plenty of people doing good things that make the news, but again, sometimes people just don't care (rightfully so)."
Where are the news stories of people doing good things though? I rarely see them. The news is overrun by garbage like this. I also notice you say people shouldn't care, and you say "(rightfully so)", which you seem to be throwing around alot. Why is that "rightfully so"? It would actually be better for the youth of the world to look at the news and see people doing good things, because it would pass lessons onto them which they can apply to real world situations in which they must choose between what's right and what's wrong. You'd be surprised at how many children simply can't do what's right nowadays.
"and the dress controversy did produce conversation, which produced scientific information. like you said, you wished the news would be a medium for information, and it is. i learned stuff from this dress, and so did many millions of other people. just because it doesn't necessarily do anything useful to society, doesn't make it any less important."
What exactly did you LEARN then? Please do tell the class. What pearl of wisdom did you glean from the situation that you can put to practical use in life? And if it doesn't help anybody out it any way, then that would mean it's meaningless and non-important. "Just because it doesn't necessarily do anything useful to society..." I'll cut you off right there, I've made my point and you've just supported it.
"You have to also realize social media is a pivitol part of the news. since social media, news has spread way faster. social media is also a medium for people to express their views, on what they like/don't like/care about/don't care about. the first person who mentioned the dress obviously instated curiosity in the people who first viewed it, and it spread like that. it spreads because people want it to spread. people are legitimately interested in it, and i don't see why thats such a bad thing"
Last time I checked, Facebook didn't run Channel 7 News. Social Media and the news are two totally seperate industries. Social media is for news that's both big, AND goofy, at the same time though social media is mainly "social" and meant for communication too. But the news that aires on television for an audience of millions of viewers which since it's creation has been focused on bringing the big issues forward to the public should stay strictly for that. If people have already viewed it on social media and know the story, there's no use on putting it on television when we could be learning about topics that directly affect us. |
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| 27 Feb 2015 06:53 PM |
maybe you live in a boring town/state, where no one does anything good. thats unlikely, and what's more likely is you probably don't watch your local news. again, most good deeds don't deserve national news, but almost daily on my local news there is news of someone being a good samaritan or somsetihng along those lines. but national news, people don't want to see what some guy did for the homeless in some small town in utah, other than the people who live there, because like i said; people care about what's close to them. people care about what affects them the most. the dress blew up on social media, and social media brought the world closer together. this is why people care about the dress, they literally have access to it and all it's information in their pocket. and it's not being distributed by some news source, it'd being distributed by people.
also, chances are a young child wouldn't be watching the news in depth, and if they are, you could assume that they are smart enough to distinguish right from wrong.
what did i learn? i learned that people have different ways of percieving colors - and the exact reason why. our visual system is supposed to throw away information about the illuminant and extract information about the actual reflectance. i learned that our brain makes up information to fill in what we don't have in front of us. it may not have any practical uses in real life for most people, but niether does the news that you think SHOULD be national. it's entertainment, and entertainment/fun isn't wrong. don't shame people into thinking it is. pretty disrespectful, imo.
and i can safely say that social media has gotten bigger than the news. i'm not quite sure what you're trying to prove by differentiating social media and news, but it's as if you're not aware that since the internet was invented, social media is more reliable than actual news sources. you're getting human to human interaction on social media, and that interaction tends to be with the stuff and people you care about. and you literally just said what i've been trying to point out. "we could be learning about topics that directly affect us" the dress does actually impact us. people are talking about it - they like it. like i said, it's entertainment. a good deed or a tragic accident does NOT directly affect us. some of it may deserve national news, but still, it usually does not directly affect us. |
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| 27 Feb 2015 06:54 PM |
| the dress is black and blue |
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| 27 Feb 2015 07:00 PM |
I actually do watch my news, but you seem like one of these people who thinks social media is "the new big thing" and I guess there's no persuading you otherwise.
I'm done and give up. You're about progress, and I'm more of a traditional type of person. We have conflicting viewpoints and that's just how it is.
We have differing views, but I'm sure most people would see my way. It literally makes no sense for a simple change in lighting in a picture to be in the headlines, but rather than us just share our views (because we've already shared them enough), let's see what other people think. |
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| 27 Feb 2015 07:02 PM |
@Ddude
ferguson? what about children being buried alive! this dumb trash is being put on top of that! |
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