spydig
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Tappier
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:00 PM |
well, Jesus is God, so yeah.
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spydig
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:00 PM |
Oops, sorry. I ALWAYS forget to capitalize the "H" in Him or He when it comes to God or a similar concept.
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DlVINlTY
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:01 PM |
(if there is a god) (and if jesus was real)
why couldnt god make another "son of god" in the modern world that would prove it
I NAME CHANGED, IM STEVELACEY. | OTer| @StevieRoblox |
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:02 PM |
Jesus = Religion
If you believe in Jesus, you are religious, simple as that. |
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spydig
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:03 PM |
@Divinity:
In Christianity, Jesus is revered as the ~ Only ~ Son of God (and Messiah). He is also known (To Trinitarian-believing denominations) as being part of the Holy Trinity, thus God, in a way, and forever infinite.
So, a new Son of God can't just be "made."
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spydig
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:04 PM |
@Nene:
Not specifically. I can believe in Buddha (that he existed) but not be a Buddhist and believe in his achievement of Nirvana.
Likewise, I can believe Jesus existed but not believe that he was the Messiah and ascended to Heaven.
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El3m3ntal
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:09 PM |
NeneAnegasaki,
You misunderstand "religion". Religion is literally anything that you are devoted to. What you say is your religion. How you say it's your religion. Who you love is your religion. How you love is your religion. All your science, your religion. All your hatred, your religion. All your wars are your religion. Every breath is your religion.
My point is, Jesus isn't just "religion". Religion is potentially meaningless. It's just a word.
Jesus is so much more than religion. Hopefully someday you will understand. |
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:11 PM |
>"Not specifically. I can believe in Buddha (that he existed) but not be a Buddhist and believe in his achievement of Nirvana."
Yes, because Buddha is not described as a god. Jesus is inherently a supernatural figure. You cannot believe Jesus existed without believing in religion because they're mutually inclusive.
>"Likewise, I can believe Jesus existed but not believe that he was the Messiah and ascended to Heaven."
Then you don't believe in Jesus, because Jesus is specifically described as the Messiah that ascended to Heaven. If you don't believe there was a guy named Jesus who was the Messiah and ascended to Heaven, you don't believe in Jesus.
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:12 PM |
>"Jesus is so much more than religion. Hopefully someday you will understand."
Thanks for the good laugh.
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Tappier
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:20 PM |
"well, Jesus is God, so yeah."
SUPPOSEDLY he's the son of god, but not god himself?
christanity some illogical shit, yo |
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El3m3ntal
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:22 PM |
Tappier, you just gained so much respect from me. :)
Nene, you can laugh. That's fine, but it doesn't change the truth. I really do hope that you will understand. |
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:23 PM |
| Morality is all just subjective. |
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:24 PM |
| Jesus was real. At it was proven though a historical document. |
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El3m3ntal
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:26 PM |
iNeuroByte, you can't just "suppose" everything you hear is true.
Numerous times in the Bible Jesus proclaims Himself as God. Furthermore, He does things that only God can. (forgives sin) |
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:26 PM |
| LOL Your anthropocentric worldview that an ape was the creator of the universe with its 100 billion galaxies makes you an idiot. The milky way galaxy has 300 billion stars and the sun is just one. Jesus was insignificant. |
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:37 PM |
| Oh ya, so according to the law of cause and effect WHAT CAUSED THE UNIVERSE! |
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:38 PM |
@nene jesus was a real person, there's no doubt about it. you probably meant believe in the miracles he performed or believed that he was the son of god |
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:39 PM |
>"You'd understand if you actually took the time to read the Bible, instead of spending your time criticizing what you don't understand."
Too bad I actually read the Bible and you never have. If you read the Bible, you'd be an atheist. Either that, or you'd be an immoral thug.
The Bible blatantly supports:
1. Owning slaves 2. Beating them as much as you want 3. Force "loving" women as long as you pay their fathers off 4. Forcing them to then marry the one who does that to them 5. Mass genocide of people who don't believe in your faith 6. Women being seen as inferior and should not be ever given authority over men 7. The mass torturing of hundreds of billions of people 8. Punishing kids for the sins of their fathers 9. Never questioning authority 10. Persecuting LGBT people
and a whole lot more.
Either you never read the Bible, or you're an immoral thug. |
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meldo
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:40 PM |
Nobody's fault but mine; Nobody's fault but mine; If I don't read it my soul be lost; It's nobody's fault but mine |
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:40 PM |
Jesus can be at more than one place at once.
Jesus = God
Jesus is the Son of God, but God is the father of Jesus.
I know, hard to understand at first. You'll get the concept at some point. |
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:41 PM |
>"jesus was a real person, there's no doubt about it. you probably meant believe in the miracles he performed or believed that he was the son of god"
Nope, no evidence a magical man named Jesus ever existed. Of course a man named Jesus existed. There thousands of them today. I knew a gardener named Jesus once.
The argument isn't whether some random dude named Jesus ever existed, because thousands of them have. The argument is whether a specific magical man named Jesus who could cure people's blindness and raise from the dead existed.
This is the one there's no evidence for.
>"Oh ya, so according to the law of cause and effect WHAT CAUSED THE UNIVERSE!"
Laws only work within a specific frame. The law of cause and effect only works if time is present. There was no time before the universe.
Therefore, the law doesn't apply. It's not even a sensical concept without time.
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| 26 Feb 2015 04:42 PM |
| Some people belive that Jesus Is " supernatural." He is not, for he lives in heaven. He created everything in existence. |
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