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Re: who here thinks the nagasaki/hiroshima nukes

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Gentaurg is not online. Gentaurg
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26 Feb 2015 12:54 PM
were justified?

if yes, how dare you?
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shadowelliot2302 is not online. shadowelliot2302
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26 Feb 2015 12:55 PM
dirty japs


















is what i would say if i had anything against the japs
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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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26 Feb 2015 12:56 PM
they were justified.
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Soluum is not online. Soluum
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26 Feb 2015 12:56 PM
america cried when like 21 ppl died on 911

yet they do this and kill thousands

gg?
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Slayer9116 is not online. Slayer9116
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26 Feb 2015 12:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhHTIQNWpSc
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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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26 Feb 2015 12:56 PM
"america cried when like 21 ppl died on 911

yet they do this and kill thousands

gg?"


nearly 2,000 people died in 9/11
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shadowelliot2302 is not online. shadowelliot2302
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26 Feb 2015 12:56 PM
were those thousands american

oh wait
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Textorial is not online. Textorial
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26 Feb 2015 12:57 PM
They were[2]
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Maggmorticus is not online. Maggmorticus
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26 Feb 2015 12:57 PM
I damn dare. I'd rather have 200,000 civilians die, than two million soldiers.

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Gentaurg is not online. Gentaurg
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26 Feb 2015 12:59 PM
are you american drones aware that the soviets were steaming through manchuria set for japan?

do you know what soviets like to do with emperors? do you know what japan likes to do with emperors?

japan wanted peace early 1945 because they knew they were screwed, they wanted peace with the AMERICANS so that the soviets dont roll them over

the "they wouldve fought to the death" argument is a complete utter misconception with no root in reality, the usa would never require to invade japan for a japenese capitulation
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Apoc3005 is not online. Apoc3005
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26 Feb 2015 01:00 PM
well they weren't nukes
they were atomic bombs

but yeah, unjustified
w/e we still won, past is past
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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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26 Feb 2015 01:00 PM
gentaurg, you are wrong.

the japanese people did want peace, but the military command of japan did not want to surrender.

after the first atomic bomb drop, japan did not surrender, after the second atomic drop, then they did.

the US asked japan several times to surrender during and after the atomic bombs, they didnt answer til the second.
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Slayer9116 is not online. Slayer9116
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26 Feb 2015 01:01 PM
u dont understand if we didn't bomb da japaners there would b no anime montages
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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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26 Feb 2015 01:01 PM
its justified.

if the bombs weren't dropped then the US would have to invade japan, that would cost millions of both japanese and american lives.
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Imperatos is not online. Imperatos
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26 Feb 2015 01:01 PM
"the "they wouldve fought to the death" argument is a complete utter misconception with no root in reality, the usa would never require to invade japan for a japenese capitulation"

how is there "no root" lmao

it literally COMES from japan's samurai roots where it's either fight to the death, or dishonor.

it's already been calculated that civilian deaths, and military deaths would've been far greater if the US invaded
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Maggmorticus is not online. Maggmorticus
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26 Feb 2015 01:02 PM
I was taught that an offer of surrender was given to Japan by America, and they said no.

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KazzKali is not online. KazzKali
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26 Feb 2015 01:03 PM
" I'd rather have 200,000 civilians die, than two million soldiers. "


what, excuse me what
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fishbrick is not online. fishbrick
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26 Feb 2015 01:05 PM
i won't give my opinion

but commenting on mag's post, soldiers sign up knowing that there's a risk of death, civilians don't

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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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26 Feb 2015 01:08 PM
"but commenting on mag's post, soldiers sign up knowing that there's a risk of death, civilians don't"


nearly all the soldiers on all sides during WW2 were drafted conscripts.

they didn't have a choice.

a soldier is just a like a civilian, both human beings, just one is holding a gun.
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Maggmorticus is not online. Maggmorticus
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26 Feb 2015 01:09 PM
What Awesome said.

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adrien99 is not online. adrien99
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26 Feb 2015 01:10 PM
the nukes weren't justified as the soviet union was about to defeat japan

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lewisclabby is not online. lewisclabby
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26 Feb 2015 01:11 PM
warnings were dropped 2 days before the bombs, but they were probs english so it didn't matter

but no, killing innocents is not way to go.
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adrien99 is not online. adrien99
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26 Feb 2015 01:11 PM
"the japanese people did want peace, but the military command of japan did not want to surrender.

after the first atomic bomb drop, japan did not surrender, after the second atomic drop, then they did.

the US asked japan several times to surrender during and after the atomic bombs, they didnt answer til the second."

nice propaganda
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HellAutarch is not online. HellAutarch
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26 Feb 2015 01:12 PM
" I'd rather have 200,000 civilians die, than two million soldiers. "

soldiers enlist.. knowing of the chance of dying. soldiers are meant to die.

civilians are civilians, they're not apart of a regime nor an evil force, or whatever you want to call it, lol.
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Gentaurg is not online. Gentaurg
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26 Feb 2015 01:13 PM
august 6: hiroshima bomb

MORNING of august 9: japanese council meets to discuss unconditional surrender - this had never happened before

later that day: nagasaki nuke

did the hiroshima bombing motivate this meeting?
3 days to respond to a crisis that can determine the fate of your country? not likely
nagasaki bombing? no, that happened later that day

also, remember: japan was being blown to tiny little pieces by american bombers already, 100s of thousands were being killed by bombing raids - why distinguish between two, comparatively insignificant attacks?

also: the destruction in hiroshima was not the most the americans did in any japanese city. once again, why would you distinguish here? its illogical

the leaders of japan knew very well they were losing, they knew the war wouldnt go on - and you seem to think theyre dumb enough to "fight to the death bushido samurai wooo!" but thats not true at all

now lets enter the territory that american drones dont know of
within 3 months of the german defeat (this was agreed on beforehand by the allies), the soviets would declare war on japan - they did this on AUGUST 9

put 2 and 2 togehter
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