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Re: Space exploration is important

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Gallade300 is not online. Gallade300
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25 Feb 2015 11:23 AM
It fights off the inevitable stagnation of the human race. Imagine being a fully sentient bird, knowing about the oceans, people, the wonders of Earth, art, pleasure, culture, freedom, but being stuck in a cage for your entire life. It would suck and life would be miserable.

Then imagine being taken out and being put into the wild. It would be scary, and dangerous but assuming you made it through the first through steps, the outside would become your home. You'd experience more than you ever could have before, and for all the risks that come with freedom, they are worth it.
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dwiessner3221 is not online. dwiessner3221
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25 Feb 2015 11:24 AM
Does the bird really care? No. Its a bird.
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Gallade300 is not online. Gallade300
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25 Feb 2015 11:24 AM
And exploration/curiosity is literally human nature, it cannot be stopped, only repressed.
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Trashpost is not online. Trashpost
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25 Feb 2015 11:25 AM
you are making space exploration sound as simple as drawing a private part on a bathroom stall
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Gallade300 is not online. Gallade300
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25 Feb 2015 11:25 AM
@dwiess

Did you take any care at all to read what I wrote? Did you not catch the word "sentient"??

"Imagine being a fully sentient bird, knowing about the oceans, people, the wonders of Earth, art, pleasure, culture, freedom"
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dwiessner3221 is not online. dwiessner3221
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25 Feb 2015 11:25 AM
Human exploration, yes. For a bird to explore? No.
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Gallade300 is not online. Gallade300
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25 Feb 2015 11:25 AM
@Trash

Thanks for your interpretation, it has been noted
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guilhermecrepeerking is not online. guilhermecrepeerking
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25 Feb 2015 11:25 AM
>fully sentient bird
bait for alien invasion
aliens will invade us becus they think we are dumb
thx jugallobama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SyOKqmuknU&feature=player_detailpage#t=12
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Gallade300 is not online. Gallade300
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25 Feb 2015 11:26 AM
@dwiess

Hi, it's called an analogy. It's a simple story used to explain the bigger picture.
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dwiessner3221 is not online. dwiessner3221
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25 Feb 2015 11:27 AM
Obviously. But comparing human exploration to a bird is like comparing apples and pears.
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Gallade300 is not online. Gallade300
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25 Feb 2015 11:28 AM
@dwiess

An earthbound human race and a caged bird share many similarities
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blobbem is not online. blobbem
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25 Feb 2015 11:28 AM
It's also very, very costly.
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Gallade300 is not online. Gallade300
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25 Feb 2015 11:29 AM
@blobbem

US citizens spend more on alcohol than the apollo program would cost today
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blobbem is not online. blobbem
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25 Feb 2015 11:31 AM
'US citizens spend more on alcohol than the apollo program would cost today'

And? You want the Americans to give up alcohol to fund a space program?
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deltav is not online. deltav
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25 Feb 2015 11:32 AM
"Hi, it's called an analogy. It's a simple story used to explain the bigger picture. "
to be honest i dont really think its a good analogy, because it portrays space exploration as something done out of boredom, or some similar sentiment
which i am fairly certain is not the case
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Gallade300 is not online. Gallade300
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25 Feb 2015 11:36 AM
@blobbem

No, just putting things into perspective.
Of course under a socialist system like the federation, money doesn't matter.
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blobbem is not online. blobbem
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25 Feb 2015 11:38 AM
'No, just putting things into perspective.'

Yeah, but the people buying alcohol is for their own purposes/needs/interests. Not everyone is keen about space exploration and willing to pump loads of money into it.
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gordonrox24 is not online. gordonrox24
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25 Feb 2015 11:45 AM
For the actual cost of space exploration, we get a serious amount of knowledge. For the year 2014, NASA used 0.50% of the USA's budget. They used a lot of money, but when compared to other items we spend money on, NASA's slice of the pie is very small. Given that 0.50%, it's pretty incredible what we get. The images from the Hubble Space Telescope alone are incredible, and of course we nearly always have a full crew on board the ISS learning how to survive for long duration space flight.

It's pretty incredible what we've done. I can't wait to be able to take a vacation to the moon.
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Gallade300 is not online. Gallade300
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25 Feb 2015 12:27 PM
well said gordon
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dwiessner3221 is not online. dwiessner3221
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25 Feb 2015 03:13 PM
I agree we can be compared to birds. But there are more examples from everyday life that would of made your response a lot more relatable.
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Sankoro is not online. Sankoro
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25 Feb 2015 03:15 PM
you guys are arguing about nothing
stop
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icyiceking is not online. icyiceking
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25 Feb 2015 03:17 PM
let me just simplify this

NASA isnt being funded nowhere near enough


I am Ice. I am God.
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CasperTheGhost7 is not online. CasperTheGhost7
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25 Feb 2015 03:18 PM
How long would it take for a human to get to the nearest star system of Alpha Centuari? By that I mean the fastest way by ship. (Would nuclear powered ships be faster or no?)
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Gallade300 is not online. Gallade300
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25 Feb 2015 03:20 PM
@Casper

60 years I think. But if the voyage lasted more than 5 years, radiation would kill the passengers first
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CasperTheGhost7 is not online. CasperTheGhost7
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25 Feb 2015 03:21 PM
@icyiceking

Well sadly that was because of the Great Recession. In fact when I was little I used to think I would be the first man to walk on Mars and that was my dream to be a astronaut. But sadly no, (since I where glasses for distance now I can't become a pilot, I decided to be a artist instead) since the budget was cut. It nearly impossible for anyone in the US to become a astronaut now.
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