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Re: [USA] Updated; DON'T SIGN NCTC BILL INTO ACTION

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david6006 is not online. david6006
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20 Feb 2015 08:19 PM
This is a counter-argument to

http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=156349977

Ah, what do we have here, a concerned american whose prime goal is to make sure the nation and its interests are protected? How patriotic!

Notice: No, this isn't a slander on CalSwagDistrict, while I do point out the flaws of an abusive leader of this organization, I am not calling out Cal, I fear for the safety of USA on whomever gets the rank of Director.

Wait-what? A power hungry member of USA who- wh- what? Wants to be able to overview background checks of all agency members? Wants to be able to fire an agent if they fail a background check, even if the Director feels like the agent is a loyal hard worker?

I'm glad we can trust this power to someone who is responsible enough to handle i- wait, nope. We can't.

Alright, you want to give the NCTC The power to " infiltrate, and report terrorist groups that poses a threat to national security" and "report terrorist groups ... to higher ranking officials"

Wait, isn't that what the CIA, NSA, and every other intelligence agency (among other regular agencies) do on a regular basis? I mean, I remember once the Office of Management and Budget and the Department of the Treasury, alongside the NSA and 3 other agencies organised a RAID on a terrorist group!

Is the NCTC even needed at this point?

You're adding the FIA all over again. A bunch of power hungry, abusive, copiers.

History repeats itself, yaknow.

Section V is a protocol I assume is already sanctioned by current agencies.

Don't do this. This is a copy of the FIA/CIA. It's useless, and will be abused.

Also, what happens when the director realises that

A. Background checking for several agencies is boring, and stops doing his/her job

or

B. Realises that since we all are human and have human temptations and actions, singles out the people he/she hates, and with his/her power, gets them fired from EVERY agency under the false account of "failing a mandatory background check" ?

The NCTC would have the ability to not only do this to INTELLIGENCE agencies, but as listed, "and other federal law enforcement"

Which overtime, would most likely extend to the remaining 6 agencies like Treasury, Veteran Affairs, etc.
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golfgames1 is not online. golfgames1
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20 Feb 2015 08:25 PM
If this is against the bill that allows IC members to fire other agency members, support.
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SHARIFI2001 is not online. SHARIFI2001
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20 Feb 2015 08:29 PM
FIA and CIA does a hell of a lot of more work than you think, so don't randomly insult agencies. If you are stating to the old FIA that was unorganized and a mess, I have to admit, it was bad. But we have changed, and grew to be better than that agency lead by an inactive director.

Formally signed,
FIA DIRECTOR, SHARIFI2001
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david6006 is not online. david6006
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20 Feb 2015 08:34 PM
I'm not a congressman, nor have I ever been, but I want a congressman/woman to use this thread as a defense argument.

The NCTC bill is not a good addition to the 'safety of our nation'

It was started because of Lumidas's thread on two mafias who kill people?
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david6006 is not online. david6006
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20 Feb 2015 08:36 PM
@Shaf

Okay, you admit that the past FIA was a hell load.

It was, wasn't it?

And it was with your help, the help of someone who is dedicated who turned that around.

But, before you it was trash, abusive, blah blah.

How many of you do you think exist? When we have dept. of agriculture, and others like that, set up by people who just want a Cabinet rank and don't care about the actual group?

How long do you think that someone who isn't dedicated or responsible gets the job of NCTC Director?

Do you know how abusive it would be?

All you've done is listed my points towards FIA, but you haven't given an opinion about the actual thread.
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SHARIFI2001 is not online. SHARIFI2001
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20 Feb 2015 08:37 PM
@David, replied on the other forum.
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david6006 is not online. david6006
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20 Feb 2015 08:40 PM
@Shar

So did I, but I want to keep this forum, not the previous one.

Please keep the comments and stuff on this single forum, it provides more detail compared to others.
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tharmilkman is not online. tharmilkman
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20 Feb 2015 08:49 PM
Support
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smokiesteven is not online. smokiesteven
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20 Feb 2015 09:00 PM
support
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SHARIFI2001 is not online. SHARIFI2001
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20 Feb 2015 09:06 PM
Also, too much power can be abused. And I am not working in the politics field for a while, but I am supporting this.
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papermate0507 is not online. papermate0507
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20 Feb 2015 09:06 PM
@david

Hmm, this is so original, I haven't seen any other agency like it.


>fbi
>fia
>cia
>other intelligence groups
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david6006 is not online. david6006
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20 Feb 2015 09:07 PM
@paper

thats the point

I'm not the one making the NCTC agency, I'm the one making a petition AGAINST its creation

Read the link in the first sentence, thats the ORIGINAL bill made by CalSwagDistrict
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david6006 is not online. david6006
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20 Feb 2015 09:10 PM
>mfw paper reads this thread and thinks i'm supporting nctc
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JasonTakahashi is not online. JasonTakahashi
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20 Feb 2015 09:13 PM
I support greatly, being the ex. Secretary/Deputy of the United States Department of State. I greatly support.

NCTC is a useless load of crap that wants to be created by a person who only wants power, not nation safety.

Example is the stupid Gang Intelligence Agency some kids made up.

All they want is Director.

Doubt they care about gangs.

Also, no such thing exists!

p.s. this usa needs a http://www.roblox.com/My/Groups.aspx?gid=2528252
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david6006 is not online. david6006
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20 Feb 2015 09:13 PM
spread this 2 friends pls
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Robgolem is not online. Robgolem
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20 Feb 2015 09:14 PM
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Lithonian is not online. Lithonian
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20 Feb 2015 09:22 PM
support.

this is a stupid bill.

||Justice will be served.||
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limk is not online. limk
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20 Feb 2015 09:43 PM
Soooo much support
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papermate0507 is not online. papermate0507
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20 Feb 2015 09:47 PM
@david

OOPS lol

thought u were the person who proposed
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david6006 is not online. david6006
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21 Feb 2015 10:49 AM
@paper It's okay, but please, when CalSwag proposes this bill, show this article on congress.
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terroristic12 is not online. terroristic12
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21 Feb 2015 11:00 AM
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iComrade is not online. iComrade
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21 Feb 2015 11:01 AM
support


pew pew is the new qq
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PassPhrase is not online. PassPhrase
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21 Feb 2015 11:21 AM
Agreed, along with the fact that the FIA Director fires you for missing one training - corrupt.
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Marinio is not online. Marinio
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21 Feb 2015 11:32 AM
The CIA will not fire anyone from any agency. Our duty is, that in the case we discover an agent within the USA has been supporting foreign enemies of the United States, we will forward the information to the DNI, and the President. Most likely the DHS has well.

This is a violation of the chain of command in our agencies, therefore, I do support, on behalf of the CIA.


- Marinio | Director of the Central Intelligence Agency
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SHARIFI2001 is not online. SHARIFI2001
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21 Feb 2015 11:39 AM
Missing one training? I doubt that.
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