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Sleet Clan - Resignation & Message to SC

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Rectifying is not online. Rectifying
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12 Feb 2015 05:43 PM

"'SC was always made out of RCL tryhard composition.'
lmao no" [x2]


:-)
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AGuyCalledOzymandias is not online. AGuyCalledOzymandias
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12 Feb 2015 05:45 PM
Hola.

I agree with most statements, save a few tiny irrelevant ones that don't contribute much to the main point.
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krtee is not online. krtee
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12 Feb 2015 05:46 PM
agreed

bye

qq
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L1611 is not online. L1611
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12 Feb 2015 05:46 PM
who's gonna scam st's now -_-
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Atrinak is not online. Atrinak
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12 Feb 2015 05:50 PM
Ciao, man.
:p


Let's go. http://www.roblox.com/My/Groups.aspx?gid=123123
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campy is not online. campy
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12 Feb 2015 05:54 PM
Campy the Sleet Clan's leader relied on Prag to basically lead the clan for him. Why was it necessary for Prag to lead the clan for him if he needed help, why not just teach him? A leader needs to be responsible to lead his own clan, and not let someone else lead it for him. I don't understand how letting someone else lead the clan for you helps you become a better leader.
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If you’re honestly going to pull this card on how I always went to Prag when things went wrong you’re an idiot. You always relied on Prag and your advisors before you made a decision and they basically led the clan for you. Prag even told me that you had always went to him for any sort of advice to help lead the clan. It really is sad though, even with Prag’s assistance you still managed to fail at leading the clan properly, losing to both RAT and RAA, failing to complete a war with UAF, and in your era we were basically using the same places Prag had in his era, you introduced nothing new to the table, at least I tried to get us a new fort, A-6, and got the crossbows fixed.

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Campy has been angry at me for the past month or so. It's because I haven't been helping him with Sleet Clan, and that is my fault. But, I find it wrong how he treats me like crap every time I talk to him on xfire or anything. And a bit hypocritical, Campy didn't help me at all when I led Sleet Clan, but I was nice enough to let him lead his own clan (Fleetcom).

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Thing is I actually tried helping you with Sleet Clan and I didn’t totally neglect you for a zombie game, I tried to have talks with you about SC reforms and you kept getting off-track and losing the topic at hand. I even told you that I probably wouldn’t be as active because of Fleetcom. On the other hand, you just didn’t do jack and sat there in a rank playing Apoc saying you were going to help me but never did.

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Sleet Clan Safeguard, the division that I once lead. It's just a big social circle honestly, and it's a big problem with SC's community. Once cr4y got power to lead the Safeguard, he created it in to his own social circle. The majority of SCSG don't participate in any Sleet Clan related events, they are mostly in it for the scrimmages. Campy did nothing about that, even when SCSG banned their own leader, Campy from one of their scrimmage practices. This is a big fault in leadership, he should take responsibility over that and not be overpowered by a few RCL try-hards.

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In fact, the Safeguard social circle started in your era since that’s when Cr4y was given power to lead it and according to you he formed it into what it has been. SCSG was never active in SC for your era at all and in mine they had assisted us in multiple raids whilst I was trying to get the division to be more oriented to help Sleet Clan. Although I do admit SCSG wasn’t the most active or helpful in my era either, at least I tried to fix that, not ignore it. I’m even planning reforms for SCSG as we speak. I never got banned from a SCSG scrimmage practice and you even asked me on XFire if I did and I told you no, yet you still need to go on false information to give your argument some sort of leverage. Everyone took a big piss on you in your era Rivalize because you let your friends run wild and do whatever they want in the clan and you didn’t have control of it. I had control of what went on in my era, but of course you wouldn’t be active enough to see that anyways since all you’ve been doing is playing Apoc.

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I haven't seen any great progress in Sleet Clan under Campy's command, and I feel like someone else should lead it. Why? Because Sleet Clan isn't going to last that long unless it has a really, really good leader. Sleet Clan's a tough clan to run, and there seems no one to fit the job.

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In your era SC did not advance in any shape, way or form. We used the same places for the 4-5 months you led the clan, and nothing got done. In my era I was pushing for a new fort which actually happened, A-6 was going to be fixed and released, and Eradicators were up and working. Difference between you and me is that we both may complain we don’t have the resources to get stuff done, but at least I actually tried to do something about it rather than sitting on my ass wondering why nothing is being handed to me.

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Sleet Clan has no community, it would require a full rebuild and be a completely new SC in order to survive. The problem is Campy refuses to do that, and he keeps turning to Prag when it gets tough.

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Again, you’re a major hypocrite saying this and I think I cleared up this in the first part of my rant.
I rarely went to Prag when things went bad, I went to prag maybe once or twice for some tips in my era, he initially came to me offering to help and I took the offer because I actually can suck my pride and do what is right for SC. Unlike you, who is too blinded by his constant failures that he doesn’t know what needsto be done for SC. You even said yourself, if there is someone that can help bring back SC it was Prag. Are you going back on your word?

(Sorry for any grammar errors.)
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thorhayes is not online. thorhayes
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12 Feb 2015 06:00 PM
This whole thread is a joy to read

- Jesus
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resurged is not online. resurged
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12 Feb 2015 06:00 PM
campy you can make as many counter arguments as you want, but it can never change the fact that you're a trash leader and SC IS going to die in your leadership. You don't have the qualities a leader should possess
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LuckLuckbronie is not online. LuckLuckbronie
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12 Feb 2015 06:00 PM
bye rival

i always loved you
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AGuyCalledOzymandias is not online. AGuyCalledOzymandias
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12 Feb 2015 06:04 PM
Campy the first step to fix flaws/problems is to recognize them. You're just letting your pride and ignorance blind you.


I've been known by many names, but this is the most fitting. R$439 , RAP: 275,852
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campy is not online. campy
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12 Feb 2015 06:05 PM
aj you're so bipolar its hilarious

you already got your little 15 seconds of fame faking cancer anyways so



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rodgerdodger is not online. rodgerdodger
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12 Feb 2015 06:05 PM
"Great leaders are rare on a game where if your smart enough to manage a clan you probably have better things to be doing in real life."

All of the truth.
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YoungSuperman100 is not online. YoungSuperman100
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12 Feb 2015 06:06 PM
Honestly, the reason why SC strived before is because prag would rarely go to trainings. So if he showed up at a training people would praise him.
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campy is not online. campy
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12 Feb 2015 06:06 PM
i don't see how i'm ignoring anything

ill be the first person to tell you sc does have problems

but just spitting out pure garbage will result in me getting upset
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resurged is not online. resurged
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12 Feb 2015 06:09 PM
there is nothing bipolar about that.

i always hated you, always dissed SC since you got leadership.

please explain what is bipolar

maybe you should learn what bipolar means instead of just throwing it out there?

also about the cancer maybe you should go read my thread about it again and learn that i didn't even fake it.

ironic because you're calling me bipolar yet you have nothing to insult me so you use something that you supported me on all those years

please go bandwagon more, you'll never be a good leader just give up.
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resurged is not online. resurged
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12 Feb 2015 06:11 PM
BIPOLAR;


Describes one who has bipolar disorder. This disorder causes the person to have mood swings frequently, usually triggered by something small. Mood swings can also occur for no apparent reason, and not to the person's control.
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Dominilim is not online. Dominilim
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12 Feb 2015 06:11 PM
rip

and didn't campy give prag SC because it was pretty much dead? and that was his only choice? lol

"Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do."
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resurged is not online. resurged
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12 Feb 2015 06:13 PM
leader: campy

council: sydwinx

and people wonder why SC is trash
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Cryptonox is not online. Cryptonox
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12 Feb 2015 06:15 PM
Rip.

Gl Riv.
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goldsub is not online. goldsub
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12 Feb 2015 06:18 PM
yeah, okay, sc is pretty much dead now if even riv doesn't like it anymore
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campy is not online. campy
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12 Feb 2015 06:19 PM
riv doesn't care about sc
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IntenseSnows is not online. IntenseSnows
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12 Feb 2015 07:49 PM
"Great leaders are rare on a game where if your smart enough to manage a clan you probably have better things to be doing in real life."

this is actually really smart and so true
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meepo44 is not online. meepo44
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12 Feb 2015 10:02 PM
I had a meltdown when i read that rodger...

I don't know what irony in the universe came about so that the exact people i was complaining about in said post and the number one person i could attribute it would come and SOMEHOW quote ME in a positive manner when i was talking about
YOU



Also.
yea rival i know but thats not the community i was talking about. I was talking about the 2013 SC not the 2012 prime SC.

2013 was when SC went morally bankrupt and got tipped up with OP.
That was also the cause of the problem.

I would say that if prag had stuck around it would have worked out real well for SC but since that did not happen it had the opposite effect.




Also campy. They have a point.
They are also hypocrites.

But if anything rival said was true it was that SC needs serious help.
And just like my friend rodger here, you seem to have a bit of a leader-complex where you think that just because your trying hard to do something for the clan that means it will lead to a superior clan when your really just wasting time and effort panicking and breaking things around you that WERE NEVER A PROBLEM TO BEGIN WITH.

Its not a crime to not know what to do.
However it is deplorable to be uncompromising on a stance you surely cannot be certain of.
I don't really want to judge you campy. Your a better leader then rivalize surly.
But i would only rate you as good a leader as rodgerdodger. And with SC in this condition they might very well be right in saying that SC will die in your hands.

At least TGI is popular and has ties with strong veteran filled clans and can practically whoor *yesik* themselves out for free members so that rodger can keep living his pathetic fantasy of being important with his chump dystra.

But that wont work for SC.
I don't know what steps must be taken specifically to fix SC, theres not a lot of solutions that don't step into radical places with their ambitiousness.
What i do know is that panicking and grabbing at straws while breaking things that you don't have any clue will contribute anything at all, is like planning to fix your circuit breaker by RIPPING IT OUT OF THE WALL AND THROWING IT THROUGH A WINDOW.




All these haters are probably just dumb scrubs that don't know the first thing about running a group or your character.
Regardless of rivalizes total failure as a leader i must admit the points he brings up are present even if he attributes them wrong and fails to provide solutions.




Anyway sorry for the bashes to ya campy,
and to you too rodger *im not sorry rodger*

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ncusa17 is not online. ncusa17
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13 Feb 2015 04:34 PM
campy can't lead clans, he killed fleetcom lol.
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KingRavenII is not online. KingRavenII
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15 Feb 2015 11:01 PM
I still wuv u riva -shenduffleflame22
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