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Re: "C&G" groups are dieing out. Others aren't.

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Komnenos is not online. Komnenos
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10 Feb 2015 01:23 PM
Same old RCL teams with the same old people.
Sci-fi's been lost to Star Wars.
Demagogues and attention-hoarders smear with their personal drama.

The conventional way of doing things isn't working anymore. This doesn't mean clans are dying, it means y'all are.

WAKE UP
THESE GROUPS HAVE ALL PROGRESSED MORE THAN YOU

SQPR
Star Wars
Other ancient groups
Medieval groups
Westeros
Ro-Nations (though you have integrated with these somewhat)
World War II
Colonial / Napoleonic / Victorian

They all follow lore and a theme. The times of "The ________ Legion" or "The __________ Empire" with nothing behind it are finished. They're boring. They don't represent all clans anymore but C&G, the grand majority of you on the forum that is the forefront authority on notable community members and events, have not progressed.

The money's in groups with THEME. With a STORY behind them, usually drawn from somewhere else. ROBLOX Groups are shifting to re-enactment. Generic laser pistol group, or Sword Group #76 will no longer cut it.

Think of when John's Cobras: Fort Fang was on the front page for days as the UN v GSC war progressed. That, as of now, will not happen again with any other group familiar to C&G. The new members aren't interested in groups that all look the same when they can go and re-enact history or one of their favorite books or movies.

Groups known on C&G, such as a few random examples like "Team Domino", "Ice Legion", "Vortex Security" do not provide for what these members want. There is no meaning behind the names other than to sound neat and there is little to no THEME and LORE behind these groups other than "we're cold like ice" and "we're securing this base because... yeah".

THE STATUS QUO IS CHANGING AND YOU ARE NOT ON IT
CLANS ARE NOT DIEING, YOU ARE JUST ARE NOT MOVING

IF YOU WANT TO SAVE YOUR RCL TEAMS SURE
IF YOU WANT TO PROGRESS, MOVE AHEAD
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Wussdwimp12 is not online. Wussdwimp12
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10 Feb 2015 01:26 PM
Do I have to make fun of that?
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Komnenos is not online. Komnenos
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10 Feb 2015 01:27 PM
I'd prefer a constructive reply
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SCR0LLS is not online. SCR0LLS
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10 Feb 2015 01:27 PM
"Clans and guilds"

Means that all the clans on roblox is a "c&g" clan so they're not basically dead
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Laziascus is not online. Laziascus
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10 Feb 2015 01:28 PM
The Golden Company
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Komnenos is not online. Komnenos
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10 Feb 2015 01:28 PM
SCR0LLS, I am talking about the people who would frequent C&G compared to those who don't. Mainly RCL and groups like TRA, VS, FEAR compared to other genres.

People complain a lot about "groups declining" when they're simply looking in the wrong direction
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Komnenos is not online. Komnenos
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10 Feb 2015 01:29 PM
Lazacicus,

What about it?
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Laziascus is not online. Laziascus
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10 Feb 2015 01:29 PM
idk
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888min2 is not online. 888min2
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10 Feb 2015 01:30 PM
That's a copied uniform also.
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Komnenos is not online. Komnenos
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10 Feb 2015 01:31 PM
888min2,

It's not copied. It's doomforger's Custode uniform we're wearing until the one we planned gets made.

It's all new.
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lopo365 is not online. lopo365
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10 Feb 2015 01:31 PM
dieing
lol

eat food dont die eat food u wont die
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BIoodhounds is not online. BIoodhounds
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10 Feb 2015 01:32 PM
"dieing"
*dying mate
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Komnenos is not online. Komnenos
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10 Feb 2015 01:33 PM
Made that mistake in the title, fixed it in the post
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VaximusMaximusALT is not online. VaximusMaximusALT
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10 Feb 2015 01:33 PM
SQPR - Cant raid because their bases are to laggy.
Star Wars - Just crappy in general, all their tech is bad and they just complain abot bunny hopping.
Other ancient groups - Most other ancitent groups are groups made to make money for their owner.
Medieval groups - I have not seen a single sucesful medival group
Westeros - Wtf is that
Ro-Nations (though you have integrated with these somewhat) - Boring
World War II - All the Axis forces get banned for something that happened a long time ago, get over it and maybe this woud work.
Colonial / Napoleonic / Victorian - Impossible to raid because they only make cities that have weapons you need to pay for.

Regular C&G clans - Mostly have good tech, dont complain about bunny hopping, have raidable bases, are'nt bent off money making(Unless its a PMC) most are sucesful
not boring, etc etc.

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Vexax is not online. Vexax
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10 Feb 2015 01:41 PM
you do have a point

but i don't think it's as far gone as you're making out
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Komnenos is not online. Komnenos
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10 Feb 2015 01:42 PM
You think all these groups are "crappy", yet they are all gaining members and prestige across the website at a faster rate than C&G "standards".

The new members of this site are going to Star Wars groups or becoming a Roman Legio much moreso than being the 50,0001st enlist in TRA.
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VaximusMaximusALT is not online. VaximusMaximusALT
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10 Feb 2015 01:42 PM
OOOH WESTEROS LMFAO IM WATCHING GAME OF THRONES RIGHT NOW gg...

send him off to the pleasure house.
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VaximusMaximusALT is not online. VaximusMaximusALT
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10 Feb 2015 01:45 PM
"You think all these groups are "crappy", yet they are all gaining members and prestige across the website at a faster rate than C&G "standards".

The new members of this site are going to Star Wars groups or becoming a Roman Legio much moreso than being the 50,0001st enlist in TRA."

I dont like superclans, but how good are star wars groups? When have they ever raided another group... wait do star wars groups even have enemies? Oh like the droid arm- Oh yeah thats right no one wants to be metal... wait do I see any working rebel groups? no.
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Komnenos is not online. Komnenos
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10 Feb 2015 01:47 PM
Vexax,

It's certainly not far gone off now. "C&G" groups still sit at the top of the pile as a genre, but they've grown lazy and content with what's current. It's decadent and declining in favor of these other groups that put effort into what they are based off of and how they go about making it accurate.

Things to re-vitalize this big clump like Battle Network look like a really good idea and if the community can put aside the attention-grabbers and useless ranks and HRs that create a lopsided pyramid structure, it can work out for the better.

I don't see that happening soon unless big groups start working together to protect their share of the new-members-joining-groups-influx which they are rapidly losing to new and innovative ideas.
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Vexax is not online. Vexax
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10 Feb 2015 01:49 PM
i agree with you, i think that what you've said will probably happen in about 2 years this forum will have either jumped into those role play type of groups or will just become irrelevant and slowly die off
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Komnenos is not online. Komnenos
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10 Feb 2015 01:50 PM
>but how good are star wars groups? When have they ever raided another group... wait do star wars groups even have enemies?

I don't know. They must if all their places receive far more weekly place visits than any conventional C&G clan. I'm sure they have a community isolated from yours on C&G and interact within it in better fashion than what's going on in this subforum.
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Komnenos is not online. Komnenos
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10 Feb 2015 01:57 PM
bump
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Vaul is not online. Vaul
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10 Feb 2015 01:58 PM
I wouldn't want to be part of a group that can't use four letters in the correct order. "SQPR"

And if you can show me any groups that can beat FC, RAA, V O I D, or VAK that doesn't C&G, go ahead and try.
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Komnenos is not online. Komnenos
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10 Feb 2015 02:00 PM
Vaul,

"I wouldn't want to be part of a group that can't use four letters in the correct order."

Are you aware of how pretentious and shallow you sound?



"Groups that can beat FC, RAA, Void, VAK that doesn't C&G"

What are we talking about here? Weekly base visits? Active members? Members joining in a week?
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Vaul is not online. Vaul
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10 Feb 2015 02:02 PM
No, get your VIP groups to pick up weapons and fight them.

And sorry if I sound shallow when a group names themselves SQPR, I mean how idiotic can you get?
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