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| 05 Feb 2015 10:35 PM |
If you dare have the nerve to take what us veterans hold close to our hearts, we will not comply.
You are going about this in the wrong fashion.
Forcing people to have APN as their primary if they wish to serve the group they once did for a grand and extravagant time?
This directly clashes with what APN was founded around.
If you threaten any of my friends or myself, you will be met with force. whether diplomatic or through force.
Your hostility towards me and others in Prime Legion does not unnerve us, for we remember what APN once was and what it always will be to us.
If you wish to revive this great clan, you're going to have to understand the "Peoples'" part in its name.
I have not issue with people joining APN, I simply stated my reasons as to why I will not join to three people who requested I list my reasons.
As of now, yet more reasons are added on to this list.
I wish you the best of luck with your revival and do not interfere with diplomatic relations in this such fashion. |
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| 05 Feb 2015 10:37 PM |
| Not for the weak of heart: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UNrOg_iBiE |
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| 05 Feb 2015 10:39 PM |
| It was granted new ownership two days ago. |
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| 05 Feb 2015 11:09 PM |
| First of all, only officers were told "You can't be an HR without APN as your primary". |
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| 05 Feb 2015 11:12 PM |
| Its hardly fair to threaten APN like this. New times call for new changes that need to take place. The Officer system is going to be slowly restructured as activity expands, and for now, the policy of loyalty first is what we've found acceptable. The minority that opposes it are literally only opposing it for a conceived ideal, and for the most part, because they like Prime Legion too much. If you are loyal to another group, APN does not want you as an officer. Thats it. |
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| 05 Feb 2015 11:12 PM |
I think Lancer pretty much summed up what I said earlier.
I wish you the best of luck with it. |
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| 05 Feb 2015 11:15 PM |
Okay, cool.
Let us take a peak here.
You called the opinions of APN veterans and my friends "garbage" at your meeting even after they rejoined APN to help it out and start a new.
You seem to have an issue with Prime Legion and I, which is probably the start of your cute rule.
Do not demand something you have yet to earn.
You gave a threat to me and to Prime Legion and stated you don't have any "tolerance" for me or something of the sorts.
This is not your Navy, it is our Navy. This does NOT imply to lead it the way it used to be.
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| 05 Feb 2015 11:16 PM |
And who is to say that you can't be loyal to more than one group?
You are effectively telling them to pick between their group that they were loyal to or APN, that just opened.
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| 05 Feb 2015 11:17 PM |
A minority opposes it you say? You do not have a majority that approves of it.
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| 05 Feb 2015 11:18 PM |
The conceived idea that he called your opinions garbage is entirely founded upon misconception of information. SLPM was ranting about split loyalties, when we asked for no such thing, plain and simple. This is what we referred to as garbage. Subjective moralism, an "I can do everything!" ideal. We advocate for pure dedication.
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| 05 Feb 2015 11:27 PM |
I love how Super thinks he's all that when he hasn't even been in APN anywhere near as long as the vets.
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| 05 Feb 2015 11:27 PM |
It's also cute that he uses big words to seem smart and important.
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| 05 Feb 2015 11:27 PM |
All life is "conceived ideals".
"Perception is reality", as the saying goes.
I perceive some of the ideals that have already been placed in the new APN as idiotic, and some people will find that my views are the same.
In the end, it is a "take what you can get" thing. You will do what you need, and what you must. And, then depending on how you perceive what you have done, will depend on how you cope with your own decisions.
Personally, I have made a commitment with MYSELF,and LordLancer to do what I am able for Prime Legion, until the time comes where either I, or my peers believe it is time for me to stop.
APN will be a fond memory... but the title "Alversian Peoples' Navy" will forever be a shell, and an idea.
Saying that the new APN is not the same as the old one, is... although true, a worthless argument.
But, I wouldn't dare bring up "loyalty" into the conversation leethaxor2, unless you wish to be perceived as a fool, who speaks of "loyalty" in a video game. I have left APN, and have refused to support, or deny the "new" APN.
It would be no different, if I was to create an entirely NEW group, with a popular, old standing name. |
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| 05 Feb 2015 11:28 PM |
"The conceived idea that he called your opinions garbage is entirely founded upon misconception of information. SLPM was ranting about split loyalties, when we asked for no such thing, plain and simple. This is what we referred to as garbage. Subjective moralism, an "I can do everything!" ideal. We advocate for pure dedication."
He called the opinion's of the following "Garbage"
bloxy980 SLPM thatguy201 Dystereus
Your pure dedication will have a difficult time working in APN, even if Prime Legion were never to have existed.
My "conceived idea" is not "entirely founded upon misconception of information."
Your leader may have given you a quick briefing on APN, but you are not a Veteran of APN. You hardly know any of the veterans and you're jumping to conclusions fairly quickly. I am not saying your'e opinion is garbage because you joined three days ago and are already a High Rank.
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