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Re: The declination of clan communities; who's fault is it?

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MercSlayer is not online. MercSlayer
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02 Feb 2015 07:09 AM
Now I'm not pointing fingers ( of coarse I am this is my thread fu) but mostly because HR's have gravitated their groups toward more fighting based than community based. So for that I thank you for ruining everything I used to like about clans.
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Elitecyro is not online. Elitecyro
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02 Feb 2015 07:12 AM
Joined in 2014

Hmmm
Er? Used to like?
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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02 Feb 2015 07:21 AM
clans aren't the same/as good as the past because of how clans think

the clan world was fun because it actually served its purpose - having wars

clans are content with just sitting around, training, doing events, and never going to war in order to preserve their 'reputation'

clans try to find the 'perfect' war/enemy and in reality, there are very few clans who can actually provide that

clans should be warring, taking wins, and leaving if others decline and not worry so much about their reputation to c&g

also the incompetence displayed by hrs/admins is a large factor in the decrease of raiding/wars, along with base rules
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MercSlayer is not online. MercSlayer
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02 Feb 2015 07:23 AM
^ good post m8
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darkwisp is not online. darkwisp
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02 Feb 2015 07:24 AM
"clans are content with just sitting around, training, doing events, and never going to war in order to preserve their 'reputation'"

RIGHT ON POINT

Think about it. Clans don't patrol at all and barely raid now a days. All I see is training after god damn training.

But seriously, join The Collision
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darkwisp is not online. darkwisp
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02 Feb 2015 07:26 AM
I mean common people

"No empty server raids"

"We should have defense advantages as raiders attack first and sometimes fill server"

This would not freaking happen if you patrolled for once.

But seriously, join The Collision
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Rectifying is not online. Rectifying
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02 Feb 2015 07:28 AM
I think vak is a good representation of the community

people don't get into vak anymore for their teamwork and skill, people get into vak to be known as a vak

this is applicable to the rest of the clan world

people get hr in a well known clan for the power and fame, they don't want to lose some of that because of a lost war


:-)
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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02 Feb 2015 07:30 AM
@rect

agreed, especially with their use of dirty tactics

i mean wat, who said that >_>
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Rectifying is not online. Rectifying
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02 Feb 2015 07:31 AM
yea we can see how c&G has changed overtime is very similar to vak

people had a little more "honor" awhile back, and while they didn't want to lose, they didn't fight tooth and bone to win


:-)
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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02 Feb 2015 07:32 AM
and when you think about it, clans are afraid of losing their 'reputation' to the c&g forums, where a lot of the people on here dont even involve themselves in clans
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MercSlayer is not online. MercSlayer
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02 Feb 2015 07:33 AM
All clans should be c&ging god damnit, it's were you defend yourself from trolls and come out superior.
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Rectifying is not online. Rectifying
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02 Feb 2015 07:34 AM
yea

I'm kind of a hypocrite here, but many people that c&g aren't active the "war clans". This doesn't help when a clan, many times small, tries to war another clan, we tend to mass flame one of the sides either during or before the war. This makes less people want to war.


:-)
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MercSlayer is not online. MercSlayer
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02 Feb 2015 07:35 AM
Stop giving a crap and just war it out. We can bring back the old days (maybe)
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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02 Feb 2015 07:35 AM
yup rect

and instead of encouraging the start of new clans they just put people down to fall back into the same clan world instead of having new innovators and leaders
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Rectifying is not online. Rectifying
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02 Feb 2015 07:37 AM
yes

the top ten clans have 90%+ of the active community we consider clan members

it's kind of sad


:-)
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MercSlayer is not online. MercSlayer
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02 Feb 2015 07:38 AM
Very true
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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02 Feb 2015 07:41 AM
and with all the advantages/admin abuse within clans now, clans hardly raid anymore because they dont feel like going through the trouble of having their members kicked or in general just fighting to get a win

i can understand if a clan aas a lot, but even if a fort is a bit unfair, clans just expect a silver platter win
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MercSlayer is not online. MercSlayer
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02 Feb 2015 07:43 AM
They should start patrolling, training should be about training and less about promotion. promotions should be earned through patrolling and raid time (maybe get a time clock for every member) but with kills to so they don't just camp at a fort all day for promotions
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darkwisp is not online. darkwisp
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02 Feb 2015 09:45 AM
"yes

the top ten clans have 90%+ of the active community we consider clan members

it's kind of sad


:-)"

Not to mention how half of them are allies...

But seriously, join The Collision
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CreativeCombat is not online. CreativeCombat
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02 Feb 2015 09:50 AM
i miss the active community and like you know. and actually using strategies than just blindly raiding with numbers. it just ruined everything.

*insert cool siggy here*
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DeathRanger1148 is not online. DeathRanger1148
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02 Feb 2015 09:53 AM
I couldn't agree more. I rarely see clans patrolling anymore. I checked out a clan and asked "how often do you guys patrol?" They said "We don't patrol, we just wait for people to msg us for a raid when we are doing a training."

Patrolling was fun in the good 'ol days. It's hard to find clans like that at all now...
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