Ovarix
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| 24 Jan 2015 05:29 PM |
No politician gives a crap about you
The entire "Corporations are evil and too rich" idea is a scam. In reality most regulations are put forward by politicians who are backed by corporations in order to kill competition.
Having higher wages doesn't make life better - wage in the U.S. is based on fiat currency (basically - speculation) Companies will raise prices as they raise wage for their employees
Honestly if you aren't fiscally conservative you are really dumb.
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| 24 Jan 2015 05:31 PM |
| Politicians are puppets - they're controlled by a higher authority. |
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Ovarix
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| 24 Jan 2015 05:34 PM |
"fiscally conservative"
Yea go worship your 2,000 year old earth you hardcore christian conservative. |
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Ovarix
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| 24 Jan 2015 05:38 PM |
@Aw
Spastic fiscally conservative has not socially conservative
Its financial conservation
Spending less
Taxing less
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| 24 Jan 2015 05:40 PM |
| Spending less and taxing less isn't always the way to go. |
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Ovarix
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| 24 Jan 2015 06:14 PM |
Yes it is.
When isn't it the case?
Do you want an inflation crisis?
Do you want innovation to be slowed?
The U.S. Government is SUPER hypocritical
They say companies pollute? The U.S. Military is the largest polluter in the world
They say the wealth gap is too large? The richest congressmen and senators are all "liberals" who do not voluntarily pay extra tax - ye they pass legislation on others to pay higher taxes.
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| 24 Jan 2015 08:30 PM |
1. Less taxes and less spending is simpler said than done. 2. You liberals and conservatives are all the same fighting for your own pockets, I see no difference in you two, in fact it doesn't matter if there's a conservative or liberal in office, they both spend the same amount of money when in office. 3. You seem like the everyday average conservative tryhard to me, all you guys do is do the blame game, instead of blaming the liberals or conservatives how about you guys ACTUALLY WORK TOGETHER FOR ONCE?
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| 24 Jan 2015 08:31 PM |
| The world is only how the top people want you to see it. |
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| 24 Jan 2015 08:31 PM |
| There are more rich conservatives in congress than rich liberals, So I wouldn't be poking the blame game around. |
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Ovarix
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| 25 Jan 2015 07:45 AM |
Actually
8 out of the top 10 richest people in Congress are liberals. Little did you know
1. Less taxes and less spending is simpler said than done. No it really isn't. Its called decrease funding for government programs we don't really need. We have a TON of wasteful spending there. Another idea would be to decrease the size of the military ( I am a classical liberal or "Libertarian") the list is pretty much endless 2. You liberals and conservatives are all the same fighting for your own pockets, I see no difference in you two, in fact it doesn't matter if there's a conservative or liberal in office, they both spend the same amount of money when in office.
Ok this is still politics its ALWAYS been like that. There is no such thing as a politicians who is solely out to help others - they need to make deals and such to get re elected
3. You seem like the everyday average conservative tryhard to me, all you guys do is do the blame game, instead of blaming the liberals or conservatives how about you guys ACTUALLY WORK TOGETHER FOR ONCE?
Firstly, No one is "blaming the game". Although Obama didn't pass many bills - he used a crap load of executive orders and implemented a lot of regulations via the EPA etc which like killed the economy like a goat. Also so far OBAMA said he doesn't want to work with the GOP Congress.
No offense but you are acting like a REALLY uninformed person on this entire situation. Get use to the fact no one really cares about the people and at least under "Conservatives" you have more economic freedom.
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| 25 Jan 2015 09:23 AM |
"8 out of the top 10 richest people in Congress are liberals. Little did you know"
proof or gtfo
you are the one insulting liberals and non fiscal conservatives, not me. |
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| 25 Jan 2015 09:24 AM |
"Ok this is still politics its ALWAYS been like that. There is no such thing as a politicians who is solely out to help others - they need to make deals and such to get re elected"
that just proves not the reason not to trust fiscal conservatives |
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Ovarix
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| 31 Jan 2015 09:25 PM |
Uh not it doesn't
Liberals are the ones creating the welfare nanny state and tearing apart our economy for the sake of votes.
They don't give a crap about the people.
Fiscal Conservatives aren't trying to solely help out others with free government handouts. They want to spend less and get people working in the private sector, having them provide for themselves. Liberals advocate for Keynesian Economics, basically CORPORATE WELFARE IN TIMES OF RECESSION. They were the idiots who bailed out the automobile industry and AIG - as well as used government regulation to kill competition thus making leaving their backers with MONOPOLIES AND TRUSTS.
Fiscal Conservatives want to lower spending thus lowering taxes thus allowing us to pay off our debts before we head into extreme inflation.
Liberals have proven to be the dumbest people on the face of this earth.
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| 31 Jan 2015 09:31 PM |
| Ovarix it is easy to support fiscally conservative policies like the end of social welfare programs and a reduction in taxes when society has given you the means to provide for yourself. The government needs to tax progressively against the rich to provide for the disadvantaged. This is a matter of maintaining peace and order in society. Don't expect the poor to abide by the rules if society does not give them a way to subsist. |
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| 31 Jan 2015 09:34 PM |
ovarix
i just realized you owe me 10$ worth of roblox cards
Yarg.. I'm coming for ye booty ( ͡o ͜ʖ ͡o) | ES releases on the tenth | 4DAHURD |
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| 31 Jan 2015 09:34 PM |
" based on fiat currency (basically - speculation)"
'Speculation'
you do realize the Federal Reserve decides how many dollars to print, and therefore how much a dollar is 'worth' |
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| 31 Jan 2015 09:35 PM |
| And when I say subsist I mean survive because society is a mutual effort at survival undertaken by our species. Socioeconomic disparity is a threat to social cohesion. The wealthy elites risk causing political unrest if they do not provide the poor with a means to survive. |
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Ovarix
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| 31 Jan 2015 10:02 PM |
@Francis
Inflation is not the lead cause of devalue the dollar
Policies such as the petrodollar keep our dollar up.
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Ovarix
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| 31 Jan 2015 10:05 PM |
@Epic I am not advocating for the END of a social welfare program.
I am advocating for a decrease in social welfare, More economic freedom, the disestablishment of corporate welfare - let the Economy regulate itself.
Keysnian Economics is explaining why our ass is in debt 18 trillion and why we are spending around 25% of our federal budget on Welfare. |
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Ovarix
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| 31 Jan 2015 10:06 PM |
| In fact, printing in adjustment to minimum wage increases would only inflate the dollar like 2 to 3%. |
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Ovarix
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| 31 Jan 2015 10:15 PM |
@Epic also
Only 2.3% of workers in the U.S. are known to be "in poverty"
Also wealth inequality is irrelevant. Its all about the Quality of Life index.
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