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Re: The clan community is getting smaller because of 'relevance'

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Killicide is not online. Killicide
Joined: 08 May 2010
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29 Jan 2015 09:14 PM
Most of you clanners like to live in the past and only pay attention and help clans that are already established before you give any new clans a chance.

When people try and make a new clan and then the first thing you can say is 'ur clan is bad [insert old clan name here] is bettr than u', that kind of discourages people from wanting to make any new clans or continue with the ones they had planned.

Your negative disposition to all things not already known or hyped on the sub-forums is what is contributing to the lack of new clans being made.

Why would someone make a clan if all they're going to get is flame and looked down upon by everyone for not being 'relevant'.

The whole idea of 'relevance' is killing clans and clan creation like a poison.

|-Prepare for the killicide-|

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lazyfirestar is not online. lazyfirestar
Joined: 14 Feb 2012
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29 Jan 2015 09:16 PM
Welcome to c&g
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Harbynger is not online. Harbynger
Joined: 06 Jul 2008
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29 Jan 2015 09:22 PM
On the contrary, actually.

Relevance is what is stopping bad clans from continuing on.
Bad leaders submit to the given pressure, and collapse.
Good leaders persevere and go through anyway, building a strong fighting force with those they successfully persuade.

Tenebrosity is one of these new clans that ignores any incoming flame or dislike.

RTDF is another new clan, but unlike my own clan, Queencat chooses to rebel against societary customs and norms, as well as simply building an overall bad clan.
We're not really able to stop the incompetents from making a good clan. We're just stopping the weak willed.

That is not the same as incompetence, but usually constitutes it.

We're stopping the minor clans from becoming major predeveloped.
We're allowing good leaders only, or those with existing reputation or able to get to the same level, to build a real clan.


- The Khaasai of the Horde
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GianniFlash is not online. GianniFlash
Joined: 19 Aug 2009
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29 Jan 2015 09:24 PM
lol its not getting smaller.

so dumb. you are really dumb. for real.
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Discourager is not online. Discourager
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29 Jan 2015 09:24 PM
runew or something
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Killicide is not online. Killicide
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29 Jan 2015 09:26 PM
"lol its not getting smaller.

so dumb. you are really dumb. for real."

Yes it is, there's alot less clans than there were before and there are barely any new clans being made. All the 'new' clans are just old clans that get a name change every month.

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GianniFlash is not online. GianniFlash
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29 Jan 2015 09:27 PM
It may seem that way because it seems like half of the clans someone would want to be in are "in dev". Yet probably 10% of them ever make it out of dev. We used to play in an era where you finish a base and all in a day.
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Killicide is not online. Killicide
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29 Jan 2015 09:31 PM
There are hardly any gun clans anymore and well sword clans are doing ok I guess,

But what I mean is, clans are being shot down before they are even given a chance because they are considered 'insignificant' due to their lack of C&G'ers or support on the forums.

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Harbynger is not online. Harbynger
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29 Jan 2015 09:32 PM
And the permanent development hell status, you can blame on Devoi and Richyard and the "i'm #1 dev you noob" people.

They're not contributing anything, and they're just making my efforts into Tenebrosity larger because of it.
That's a good thing because I don't want their poorly built code or heterogeneous gun designs anyway.

"Look, I can make a gun and charge R$584374357934873597 for it! BUY BUY BUY!" and people actually do.

What real contributions have they made to the clan world anyway?
"Uhh im a mediocre sniper for void, uhh I copy/paste unclear's stuff and stick it in a modulescript, hail me"

- The Khaasai of the Horde
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gamma2244 is not online. gamma2244
Joined: 08 Oct 2009
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29 Jan 2015 09:34 PM
Normally, I tend not to agree with Harbynger, but he's making a lot of really good points.

~Breathing life into the WW1 Community again~
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WheresMyTeam is not online. WheresMyTeam
Joined: 21 Dec 2008
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29 Jan 2015 09:35 PM
Correction! Our BEST sniper. He goes like 100-0 when he snipes.

"I'll show you how to handle a real Lancer!"
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Harbynger is not online. Harbynger
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29 Jan 2015 09:36 PM
'
But what I mean is, clans are being shot down before they are even given a chance because they are considered 'insignificant' due to their lack of C&G'ers or support on the forums.
'

And that would be their fault.
They're not innovating.
They're not doing anything but being a VAK/VOID/TGI/Whatever clone.
They're just doing what was done yesterday, adding a bunch of OOHH SHIINY decals, and call that a complete product.

The leader is always incompetent, and never having any skills.

It is THEIR FAULT, for not driving C&G to support them. Not C&G's fault for denouncing them. We have no reason to and hence should denounce them for it.

- The Khaasai of the Horde
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Rquinox is not online. Rquinox
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29 Jan 2015 09:40 PM
um its their fault they get hurt by flames

and they are bad for worrying about flames

so y dont u get relevant
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UntoTheBreach is not online. UntoTheBreach
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29 Jan 2015 09:40 PM
"Tenebrosity is one of these new clans that ignores any incoming flame or dislike."

"new"
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Harbynger is not online. Harbynger
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29 Jan 2015 09:42 PM
It's only about what now, a half year in development?
Only announcing things a few months ago?


- The Khaasai of the Horde
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UntoTheBreach is not online. UntoTheBreach
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29 Jan 2015 09:42 PM
"a half year in development?"
i swear it's been longer than that
at least since spring of last year
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Harbynger is not online. Harbynger
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29 Jan 2015 09:44 PM
I secretly started development under TSD around Julyish-August.
Only started to actually release updates like late October.
Inq came back and wanted me to quit and do Pyrark but I was too far in so I declined.

- The Khaasai of the Horde
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Killicide is not online. Killicide
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29 Jan 2015 09:45 PM
Tenebrosity is not new, I've been hearing about your Tenebrosity 'development' since before I hit 1k posts and that was back in like, August.

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Justin50003 is not online. Justin50003
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29 Jan 2015 09:45 PM
clans either succeed or fail
and most clans are bound to fail


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BOZZSYLUX is not online. BOZZSYLUX
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29 Jan 2015 09:51 PM
A new generation of clans is coming in, in conjunction with the updates roblox has been putting out I can see why you think that "clans" itself are becoming more and more less on ROBLOX.
There is at least a increase of clans over 200% previous year, not all of them are representing themselves on the C&G forum because it is filled with people who consider themselves as a higher society just to make them feel good about themselves.
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SirBackspace is not online. SirBackspace
Joined: 28 Mar 2010
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29 Jan 2015 09:57 PM
if a war clan wants to succeed, there are a certain number of things it is expected to do

if it doesn't do those and refuses to play by the rules established by the community, it is free to be excluded from said community

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DonFeskeral is not online. DonFeskeral
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29 Jan 2015 09:59 PM
Har when you say devoi has bad code your getting a little too big for your britches
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Harbynger is not online. Harbynger
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29 Jan 2015 10:18 PM
His code is reaaaaaaaallly messy though e.e


- The Khaasai of the Horde
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DonFeskeral is not online. DonFeskeral
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29 Jan 2015 10:25 PM
it's also pretty efficient
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Unreact is not online. Unreact
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29 Jan 2015 10:27 PM
I will prove the ones who doubt me to be wrong. For there doubting will be my motivation.
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