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Re: Add Option to "Decline to State" Gender

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TecmagDiams is not online. TecmagDiams
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21 Jan 2015 11:02 PM
Roblox allows users to choose a gender, which can be changed at any time via your profile. This is mainly used for choosing your starter outfit you are given, however it is limited in scope. Gender is a social construct, based on the continua of masculinity and femininity. Not only does limiting the choices to Male and Female not provide accurate representation of the dual continua setup of western Gender, but it forces people to choose one when they may wish to decline.

I believe Roblox should add the option to "Decline to State," as it is considerate to individuals who do not identify as male or female or do not wish to state, as well as improves data accuracy if Roblox ever used this data to track demographics.
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RBXChris is not online. RBXChris
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21 Jan 2015 11:06 PM
Support.
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anozoo is not online. anozoo
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21 Jan 2015 11:10 PM
It doesn't matter, ALL it does is give you a starter outfit THAT IS ALL, GET OVER YOURSELF
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TecmagDiams is not online. TecmagDiams
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21 Jan 2015 11:14 PM
If all it matters is for starter outfit, then why can you change it at any time? Why does it store it on your account?

Again, it's considerate, it professional, it allows Roblox an easy out to claims they are being discriminatory against gender identities, and it's extremely easy to add.
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Redesigning is not online. Redesigning
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21 Jan 2015 11:35 PM
Why haven't the devs ever thought of this?
Supported.


inb4mods
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TecmagDiams is not online. TecmagDiams
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22 Jan 2015 12:57 PM
Honestly I'm surprised they didn't include a "Decline to State" option right off the bat. Most professional companies do now-a-days, unless their entire purpose is to work within a gender binary.
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DominusPrimus is not online. DominusPrimus
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22 Jan 2015 01:35 PM
You don't get discriminated against, you just get free stuff. OH NO! FREE THINGS! Besides, even if you are transgender, then you can still pick the gender you don't want to be. I find this a true reflection of western society, if you're not politically correct it's "DEATH TO THE TYRANNTS!"

-[Don't try and exceed the limit by lowering it ~ DominusPrimus }-
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Scootrbro is not online. Scootrbro
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22 Jan 2015 01:36 PM
Oh god don't start this again
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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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22 Jan 2015 01:49 PM
Ted can't accept the fact that there are only two genders.

Now he will type a big pointless paragraph to me.



"Life is very simple, but we insist on making it complicated" -Confucius
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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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22 Jan 2015 02:12 PM
They should delete threads about gender


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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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22 Jan 2015 02:21 PM
S&I doesn't want people spamming gender threads.

Enough with this crap, Tec. You proved my point


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TecmagDiams is not online. TecmagDiams
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22 Jan 2015 02:28 PM
"S&I doesn't want people spamming gender threads.

Enough with this crap, Tec. You proved my point"
Please stop posting off-topic spam in this thread. If S&I doesn't want a thread like this why was I prompted, BY ROBLOX STAFF, to post a thread about this here? Your off-topic point is also baseless, and my point is the only one standing.
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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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22 Jan 2015 02:41 PM
Tec always thinks he's right, lol

"Spamming"

That's a funny word

This thread should be deleted


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ezergad3000 is not online. ezergad3000
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22 Jan 2015 02:44 PM
@OP
Support. When it comes to the internet, I like to be as anonymous as possible.
But there's no anonymous option for gender, and why this issue is in this state for me is very private.
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@Anyone Else
If you use my own words against me as an argument, please GTFO and get your own arguments.


-April showers bring May flowers. Mayflowers bring pilgrims.-
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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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22 Jan 2015 02:47 PM
Why does it even matter

It's not hard to big male or female


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PokeShadow77 is not online. PokeShadow77
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22 Jan 2015 02:54 PM
I support this for WNTS.

~ Do you want to see the Rabbits David? ~
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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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22 Jan 2015 02:56 PM
^
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transformerclay is not online. transformerclay
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22 Jan 2015 03:07 PM
if you are a tran or bi then choose the gender you want to be
simple as that
you can change your gender in roblox at any time and refusing to state your gender is just stupid


howdy howdy boys and girls
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Plexahedron is not online. Plexahedron
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22 Jan 2015 03:14 PM
I don't agree.
It's just an option, no one even sees it but you, think about it as a way to customize your character not determine it's gender.
Also, gender is a natural thing not a social construct made by white people. At least last time I checked.
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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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22 Jan 2015 03:19 PM
So many good points by the non supporters,

But Tec and the other supporters final to realize


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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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22 Jan 2015 03:19 PM
*fail
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transformerclay is not online. transformerclay
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22 Jan 2015 03:37 PM
you're either one or the other
it doesnt really matter because we are all humans and gender doesnt have much effect
if you are being made fun of or something like that because of your gender then just ignore it, theres easier ways then trying to make a change to a website


howdy howdy boys and girls
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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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22 Jan 2015 03:38 PM
The other gender thread got deleted for good. So happy



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Plexahedron is not online. Plexahedron
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22 Jan 2015 04:31 PM
Gender is "either the male or female division of a species, especially as differentiated by social and cultural roles and behavior"
As quoted from the thing we call the dictionary.
And last time I checked, whatever the APA is doesn't officially define words. On the other hand, the dictionary does.
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TecmagDiams is not online. TecmagDiams
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22 Jan 2015 04:33 PM
DominusPrimus, Biologically there are three actually. Male, Female, and Intersex. (which is identifiable by being neither male nor female, such as having indifferential reproductive organs, or genetic conditions such as XXY genes).

This isn't about the package you get, it's about the fact users should be allowed to decline to state. Allowing users to decline to state is what professional companies do, as it allows users the choice to provide the data (which isn't data Roblox finds important to have) AND is more inclusive.

DarkImperiator, thanks for bumping the thread so much, glad for the support.

transformerclay, incorrect. You are not one or the other. You have failed to understand the meaning of the term "gender" as well as the constructs it's built upon. Male, Female, Androgynous, and Indifferent are all normal genders as defined by the continua of masculinity and femininity, and those are just 4 broad categories. Also I state once again:
>Lgbt+ identities have nothing to do with this suggestion, and I don't know why you are mentioning them. This suggestion is about gender, not who people are attracted to.
>Trans* and Cisgender identities have nothing to do with this suggestion, as this suggestion has nothing to do with assigned gender, only with gender identity.

This has already been addressed, please read next time.
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