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Re: "GMOs are bad"

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CoolJohnnyboy is not online. CoolJohnnyboy
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21 Jan 2015 02:47 PM
Everything you eat contains them, and humanity hasn't been wiped out yet.

"They cause cancer omg"
You are probably one of those insane people that thinks vaccines do too

"factory farming is bad"
It's not nice some of the conditions they have, but they are going to be killed for your food soon.

If you want to go waste your time and money finding something that is non-GMO and organic, go ahead, don't force it on the rest of us
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Picosecond is not online. Picosecond
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21 Jan 2015 02:48 PM
@op, the main issue with GMOs is if they escape into the enviroment. Traits such as producing their own pesticides means that they may wipe out native plant or animal species and out compete the original organism they are modified from.
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CoolJohnnyboy is not online. CoolJohnnyboy
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21 Jan 2015 02:49 PM
How so? From the places they are made or from our crap, or both?
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Picosecond is not online. Picosecond
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21 Jan 2015 02:50 PM
@Cool, from the farms that GMOs are grown on?
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CoolJohnnyboy is not online. CoolJohnnyboy
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21 Jan 2015 02:51 PM
Interesting. Either way, GMOs or not, farming will have an impact on the environment. It's gonna be bigger with GMOs.
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NotInOurStars is not online. NotInOurStars
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21 Jan 2015 02:52 PM
literally all we want is for them to be labeled by government requirement

all we want is a label
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CoolJohnnyboy is not online. CoolJohnnyboy
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21 Jan 2015 02:55 PM
"literally all we want is for them to be labeled by government requirement

all we want is a label"

But would you still eat them, label or no label?
Most people wouldn't care for the label, but if you do, that's fine.
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Ouendan is not online. Ouendan
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21 Jan 2015 02:56 PM
GMO doesn't exist here thank god
but I would not buy them if they were labeled GMO
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CoolJohnnyboy is not online. CoolJohnnyboy
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21 Jan 2015 02:56 PM
"GMO doesn't exist here thank god
but I would not buy them if they were labeled GMO"

how much is food
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Ouendan is not online. Ouendan
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21 Jan 2015 02:58 PM
Um
How much is the cost of food here?
Not much, almost free for me
but that's because I own several farms
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paylay is not online. paylay
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21 Jan 2015 02:58 PM
I just want them to be labeled, thats it.

~ The Quebec City City of Quebec City ~
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CoolJohnnyboy is not online. CoolJohnnyboy
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21 Jan 2015 02:59 PM
"Um
How much is the cost of food here?
Not much, almost free for me
but that's because I own several farms"

That's actually cool you have farms
Not many people can say they do these days
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CoffeeAddiction is not online. CoffeeAddiction
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21 Jan 2015 03:03 PM
"Everything you eat contains them, and humanity hasn't been wiped out yet."
that's because gmos have only been out for a very short amount of time

"You are probably one of those insane people that thinks vaccines do too"
GMO does cause cancer though
they've tested rats with GMO and they got tumors
and it messes with your DNA

"It's not nice some of the conditions they have, but they are going to be killed for your food soon."
sorry but farmers are blind to the fact that pesticides and GMO are deadly

"If you want to go waste your time and money finding something that is non-GMO and organic, go ahead, don't force it on the rest of us"
i have only one thing to tell you about this:
eat an organic banana then compare it to a GMO banana, the taste difference is enormous
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CoffeeAddiction is not online. CoffeeAddiction
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21 Jan 2015 03:04 PM
also if you lived near a field before (i used to), you would see how poisonous roundup is
i've breathed that stuff in before and felt so sick and dizzy
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Putinism is not online. Putinism
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21 Jan 2015 03:04 PM
"GMO does cause cancer though
they've tested rats with GMO and they got tumors
and it messes with your DNA"
[citation needed]
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DanBrowned is not online. DanBrowned
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21 Jan 2015 03:05 PM
GMOs are typically harmless.
People overreact when the read about fish DNA being added to tomatoes.
They added a piece that let the tomato survive colder weather more easily.
Sometimes things go wrong, but there's screening and testing to reduce problems.

DanBrowned, the sultan and dark lord of Off Topic.
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CoffeeAddiction is not online. CoffeeAddiction
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21 Jan 2015 03:08 PM
"[citation needed]"
the burden of proof lies with op as he is the one who is making these claims
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Ouendan is not online. Ouendan
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21 Jan 2015 03:08 PM
"eat an organic banana then compare it to a GMO banana, the taste difference is enormous"
This is true
Those banana's in the US have no flavor; they're insipid
The ones I'm currently eating right now cannot even be compared with them, they're on a whole other level.
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Putinism is not online. Putinism
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21 Jan 2015 03:10 PM
"the burden of proof lies with op as he is the one who is making these claims"
the burden of proof also lies on you
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Picosecond is not online. Picosecond
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21 Jan 2015 03:11 PM
You can't say GMOs are bad.

Saying GMOs are bad is like saying that dogs are bad because some maul people; it's all dependent of the strain of DNA that the scientists have created. You can't simply blame everything on GMOs, if a GMO does something bad, blame it on that specific GMO and not all GMOs.

GMO - I mean, amen.
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DanBrowned is not online. DanBrowned
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21 Jan 2015 03:12 PM
Funny thing about the rat study.
The types of rats that were chosen were of a variety EXTREMELY PRONE to tumors in the first place.
I don't recall the exact details, but I believe the "control group" consisted of very similar rats that didn't get cancer as often.

DanBrowned, the sultan and dark lord of Off Topic.
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CoffeeAddiction is not online. CoffeeAddiction
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21 Jan 2015 03:16 PM
"Saying GMOs are bad is like saying that dogs are bad because some maul people; it's all dependent of the strain of DNA that the scientists have created. You can't simply blame everything on GMOs, if a GMO does something bad, blame it on that specific GMO and not all GMOs."

the thing is
monsanto puts little to no monitoring on their gmos, and guess where a ton of our produce comes from?
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DanBrowned is not online. DanBrowned
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21 Jan 2015 03:17 PM
To their credit, they do make sure the plant survives and doesn't kill everything in a 10-mile radius.

DanBrowned, the sultan and dark lord of Off Topic.
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CoffeeAddiction is not online. CoffeeAddiction
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21 Jan 2015 03:17 PM
fine, have fun getting long-term health effects
i was only trying to help you
i've lived by farms and i know how bad the stuff is
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CoolJohnnyboy is not online. CoolJohnnyboy
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21 Jan 2015 03:18 PM
whatever floats your boat
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