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| 20 Jan 2015 08:52 PM |
end it all
it's pretty obvs at this point bens can't run it worth a damn as shown by the fact that quite literally nobody likes him and every other day SF is being flooded by RHL controversy, and even if he could run it properly, 95% of the people in the RHL community either take it way too seriously or whine about everything under the sun (or both)
it's basically just an unending dumpster fire at this point since nobody can do anything without either getting suspended or causing thirty page long back-and-forths that accomplish nothing at all there really is no point in bothering with it anymore
just stop
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| 20 Jan 2015 08:52 PM |
| i was suspended FOUR NO reasone AGAIN... f.f.s |
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| 20 Jan 2015 08:53 PM |
| Unfortunately, it will never stop and it's been this way for maybe 2 years now. |
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| 20 Jan 2015 08:56 PM |
>2 years of this okay seriously if it's been this way for two years now you guys are officially worse than OTers at determining when something has been going on for long enough |
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| 20 Jan 2015 08:56 PM |
"shown by the fact that quite literally nobody likes him" ain't that the truth lol.
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| 20 Jan 2015 08:58 PM |
| maybe people would like you more if you didn't say stupid things like this "Not to mention, you posted a petition. I already told everyone that I don't listen to petitions anymore... Causing a public uproar is probably not the best way to tackle this." and actually knew how to run a league |
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| 20 Jan 2015 09:03 PM |
So - in a way - you want them to just make a bunch of petitions? I'm trying to help kill the spam on the SF. I volunteered to make a public site where people can use some type of forum on it, because not everyone has space to join on their mains and doesn't want to log onto their alts every day, etc. Many people were against that too, but it's basically gotten to the point where whatever I do I'm burnt at the stake for it, even if it's an idea that people have asked me for. Can't win them all bud. Part of the challenges of owning is dealing with the hate, and I've learned slowly over the years to deal with it. Some of it I just laugh at nowadays because people make up idiotic excuses for things it's hilarious.
Plus, if you're gonna go by the people's opinion on how I run the league instead of seeing it for yourself, and not realizing that I have been running most of the league by myself, with help from Death as co-commissioner and a few others in officiating. Lately I've picked up a few helping hands that hopefully can calm things down, although more arguments are starting for that.
At the moment it's a trash heap for sure, and I don't think people realize what they are doing. Especially since this is pretty much the last large ball hockey league out there at this point, with H26's gone yesterday or whenever, and Silent quitting his to join me next season.
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| 20 Jan 2015 09:03 PM |
| justan i wanna see you try to run a league for 4 years i dare you |
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| 20 Jan 2015 09:04 PM |
And I really don't see why telling people not to spam the SF is a bad thing. If you want me to allow them to make a bunch of petitions, then I won't say anything and it'll be 3x as bad. Otherwise, I think sticking to the whole private messaging thing is fine, because that's what it is for, right?
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| 20 Jan 2015 09:06 PM |
| justan i wanna see you try to run a league for 4 years i dare you |
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| 20 Jan 2015 09:11 PM |
>So - in a way - you want them to just make a bunch of petitions? who cares? you can choose the ones you recognize and the ones that you don't
>I'm trying to help kill the spam on the SF. you're doing an awful job at it
>I volunteered to make a public site where people can use some type of forum on it, do you even know how to do this
>because not everyone has space to join on their mains and doesn't want to log onto their alts every day, etc. ok and
>Many people were against that too, probably because judging by your previous comment on making it you have no idea how to do this
>but it's basically gotten to the point where whatever I do I'm burnt at the stake for it, probably because you have no idea what you're doing 98% of the time and the few times you have any sort of rationale you squander it on worthless trash
>even if it's an idea that people have asked me for. possibly because you have set yourself up for failure by being a terrible owner
>Can't win them all bud. Part of the challenges of owning is dealing with the hate, and I've learned slowly over the years to deal with it. except your way of "dealing with it" is to not even attempt to fix any of the problems and to ban people who call you out for being an awful owner while refusing to acknowledge the fact that you have absolutely no idea how to run a league
>Some of it I just laugh at nowadays because people make up idiotic excuses for things it's hilarious. from what i've seen of you most people make legitimately good suggestions or petition you and you ignore them or whine and rage about them because how dare they petition you in an attempt to make the league even halfway decent or capable of recovery
>Plus, if you're gonna go by the people's opinion on how I run the league instead of seeing it for yourself, and not realizing that I have been running most of the league by myself, okay wait what? also i've seen you for myself and you are a naive, and overall incompetent hack who can't accept that he's wrong or uses a system that doesn't work, or just straight up has no idea what is practical and what is not
>with help from Death as co-commissioner and a few others in officiating. and death does not agree with most of what you do at all
>Lately I've picked up a few helping hands that hopefully can calm things down, although more arguments are starting for that. because they're basically your personal damage control squad
>At the moment it's a trash heap for sure, and I don't think people realize what they are doing. Especially since this is pretty much the last large ball hockey league out there at this point, with H26's gone yesterday or whenever, and Silent quitting his to join me next season. oh god RHL is going to get even worse
>justan i wanna see you try to run a league for 4 years i dare you i have better things to do with my life than run an SF sports league |
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| 20 Jan 2015 09:12 PM |
tl;dr
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| 20 Jan 2015 09:13 PM |
>And I really don't see why telling people not to spam the SF is a bad thing. i don't think you know what spam is because making petitions isn't spam at all
>If you want me to allow them to make a bunch of petitions, then I won't say anything and it'll be 3x as bad. one you don't know that two you're exaggerating and three who even cares it's not like it'll change anything because you ignore everything anyways
>Otherwise, I think sticking to the whole private messaging thing is fine, because that's what it is for, right? petitions are generally, y'know, public things, so no. that's not what PMs are for |
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| 20 Jan 2015 09:13 PM |
>tl;dr thank you bens for proving to everybody on SF everything that i just said about you |
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| 20 Jan 2015 09:17 PM |
"i don't think you know what spam is because making petitions isn't spam at all" It's a thread, correct? If you've been around here for any more than a month, you'd know that any thread about the RHL on here is considered "RHL spam" by anyone
"one you don't know that two you're exaggerating and three who even cares it's not like it'll change anything because you ignore everything anyways" It was that bad before, back when I recommended petitions. Then people got the idea that I would change anything if they rioted against it like it was whitehouse . gov...so I stopped.
"petitions are generally, y'know, public things, so no. that's not what PMs are for" Man you are sure one smart person. Did I not just say that I'm trying to get rid of petitions so we don't have people making arguments with the usual "OMG REVERSE THIS I DON'T LIKE IT" -- that's what caused today's daily outrage, because Hash decided to talk about the teams, and then people got aggressive. Petitions are what is making this league look bad, and you fail to realize something as simple as that.
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| 20 Jan 2015 09:26 PM |
>It's a thread, correct? If you've been around here for any more than a month, you'd know that any thread about the RHL on here is considered "RHL spam" by anyone okay so in other words you don't know what spam is then
because that's not spam.
>It was that bad before, back when I recommended petitions. Then people got the idea that I would change anything if they rioted against it like it was whitehouse . gov...so I stopped. okay and what's your point? that doesn't mean anything in the present and more importantly even if it is "this bad" you again ignore all petitions anyways so what does it matter?
>Man you are sure one smart person. being condescending because i pointed out a hole in your logic i see
>Did I not just say that I'm trying to get rid of petitions so we don't have people making arguments with the usual "OMG REVERSE THIS I DON'T LIKE IT" actually you've never said that in this thread not that it matters since the point you're trying to make here isn't relevant but w/e
also, what makes you think that "Getting rid of petitions" is going to in any way stop people from doing that? it's not like people are suddenly going to be like "oh no we can't make petitions anymore guess i can't go 'OMG REVERSE THIS I DON'T LIKE IT' anymore :((((" because they're not lol
>that's what caused today's daily outrage, no what caused today's daily outrage is you being dumb again
>because Hash decided to talk about the teams, and then people got aggressive. yeah bud maybe they wouldn't be so aggressive if you weren't being so ridiculous about everything
>Petitions are what is making this league look bad, and you fail to realize something as simple as that. yeah haha except they aren't
in fact if anything they're making the league look good because the only petitions i see around here are pertaining to the RHL's legitimate issues, which means that the folks in the league aren't always blindly following you because you're GLORIOUS LEADER. conversely, the fact that you ignore them all because "ugh all they do is complain about how they dont like stuff cuz they dont like it and ugh they all hate me" does not reflect well on you because for starters that almost never happens in any of the petition threads that gain traction around here.
also, have you ever considered that perhaps the very reason why they hate you is because you don't listen to them ever because of your crazy recursive logic/self fulfilling prophesy thing that all they're going to do is bash you and that therefore the petition threads aren't worth your time? cuz that's basically why they hate you kid |
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| 20 Jan 2015 09:28 PM |
the fact you are going out of your way to "hurt" the RHL
shows you care so much lol, get life bruh
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| 20 Jan 2015 09:28 PM |
Dude what the hell ever. If you are going to try this hard to win a "flame war", have your "win", I don't feel like fighting right now. It's 10:28pm. Have a nice night.
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| 20 Jan 2015 09:30 PM |
>the fact you are going out of your way to "hurt" the RHL
shows you care so much lol, get life bruh ok kid if you somehow think this is some sort of ploy to "hurt the RHL" i think you may wish to seek some sort of help because you're a little bit on the loony side |
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| 20 Jan 2015 09:31 PM |
>Dude what the hell ever. If you are going to try this hard to win a "flame war", have your "win", I don't feel like fighting right now. It's 10:28pm. Have a nice night. alright so basically you admit you're wrong here and that everything you say is absolute nonsense good glad we clarified that so that way the particularly gullible people on SF now have a reason to not believe you |
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| 20 Jan 2015 09:31 PM |
this guy needs to shut up
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| 20 Jan 2015 09:36 PM |
>this guy needs to shut up so are you actually going to try and argue against my fairly sound logic or are you going to continue to whine about how i'm trying to "hurt" the RHL even though i've already stated that the RHL is already an unending dumpster fire and therefore probably can't be "hurt" any worse than it is by itself |
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