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Re: Robert E Lee was a great general

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Basketor is not online. Basketor
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20 Jan 2015 04:09 PM
If Lincoln didn't find Grant the south would have won
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Dravum is not online. Dravum
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20 Jan 2015 04:10 PM
if robert e lee wasn't so loyal to virginia, he would have led the union forces
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Thundercrap is not online. Thundercrap
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20 Jan 2015 04:10 PM
and the point of this post was?
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Basketor is not online. Basketor
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20 Jan 2015 04:16 PM
Spot on Dravum
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Komnenos is not online. Komnenos
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20 Jan 2015 04:18 PM
Grant was a sub-par leader who followed Lincoln's inexperienced orders to throw more and more young men at Longstreet's fortifications without care for their lives until Dixieland ran out of ammunition and was forced to retreat. Cold Harbor.

The North had a guaranteed victory if it wasn't idiotic in every way, shape, and form which it often was so the whole process was dragged longer than it needed to be.

Lee was a defensive genius and revolutionized how terrain was used in combat. Longstreet invented modern trench warfare. Grant was a blithering drunkard and Sherman a pillaging barbarian who pale in comparison to the Southern aristocracy's tactics.
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Komnenos is not online. Komnenos
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20 Jan 2015 04:22 PM
And yet because Grant so grossly outnumbered, outgunned his opponents he is remembered as their equal despite moving slower, learning slower, and reigning over the most disastrous military performances of the Victorian Era.
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Rectifying is not online. Rectifying
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20 Jan 2015 04:24 PM
victor's bias!


:-)
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Basketor is not online. Basketor
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20 Jan 2015 05:50 PM
@Rect

But Lee didn't win

And is well known as the better general


▬I wreck the air ▬
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hubert637 is not online. hubert637
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20 Jan 2015 05:52 PM
Lee's greatest weakness.... another General commanding enemy forces.
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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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20 Jan 2015 05:52 PM
The south would of lost eventually.

The Union had more men, more industrial power, more guns, and more railroads and locomotives to supply their troops.
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Textorial is not online. Textorial
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20 Jan 2015 05:59 PM
We succeeded from the union first and probably wouldn't hesitate to do it again.
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KiIIah is not online. KiIIah
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20 Jan 2015 06:01 PM
William Tecumseh sherman was great too

he destroyed everything in his path :DDD

I'm not a weeb I swear, I've never seen Chinese cartoons in my life.
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20 Jan 2015 06:06 PM

@Killah

That was after they basically had a secure victory tho

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Rectifying is not online. Rectifying
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20 Jan 2015 06:11 PM
yea but the union did exaggerate grant's tactical skill
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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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20 Jan 2015 06:17 PM
deception is apart of war

if the enemy things your the best the other side has to offer

their going to make a super high tech plan and it will fail once the opponent launches a simple charge
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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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20 Jan 2015 06:18 PM
thats what the mongols did, the greeks did


they'd Massacre a contingent of enemy soldiers, and let few escape inorder for them to tell their own horror stories to the rest of the enemy armies and cause panic



every soldier set 4 campfires to make your own force look incredible large and make the enemy retreat even before the battle begins

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RoDuck3D is not online. RoDuck3D
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20 Jan 2015 06:20 PM
"We succeeded from the union first and probably wouldn't hesitate to do it again."

please take the damn diehard republicans with you when you do so please
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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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20 Jan 2015 06:21 PM
"We succeeded from the union first and probably wouldn't hesitate to do it again."

there is still a greater african american/immigrant population in the south than in the north

so good luck trying to succeed on the same values
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Komnenos is not online. Komnenos
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21 Jan 2015 03:47 PM
White Southernors in the grand majority of cases vote against welfare, while most blacks in the South receive very large and disproportionate amounts of welfare. They're responsible for most of the crime, murder, and generally anything illegal.

While you're right about not being able to secede right now, the SJW's rhetoric being pressed about worshipping MLK and going on and on about race quotias and wealth inequality and how about we need to import MORE Africans is luckily being ignored by all but the blacks and bleeding-heart women they target for votes.
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