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Re: Why do older people say Dubstep is not real music

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D3vel0per is not online. D3vel0per
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16 Jan 2015 05:26 PM
And how the way we dance is weird, when the way they danced back then is ridiculous XD
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NathanaelR2 is not online. NathanaelR2
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16 Jan 2015 05:26 PM
6/10 Old bait

You can do better.
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NotAshley is not online. NotAshley
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16 Jan 2015 05:27 PM
dubstep is almost entirely rhythm-based

anyone who listens to it expecting genius melody and chord progressions will be disappointed
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SteadyRhythm is not online. SteadyRhythm
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16 Jan 2015 05:27 PM
dubstep is a press of the button

old music actually took work and was music

dubstep is just noise.

dancing, anything except for grinding, gas pedaling, and twrking is okay.

do you have significant evidence to support that statement?
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D3vel0per is not online. D3vel0per
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16 Jan 2015 05:30 PM
Ok, I did not only mean Dubstep, but modern music. Yeah sure, some of the music is bad, but most of it is really good.
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NotAshley is not online. NotAshley
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16 Jan 2015 05:30 PM
"dubstep is a press of the button"

this makes me angry

producing electronic music requires so much more effort than anyone seems to think, it's not just "press a button then profit"

people need to have an understanding of:

1) music theory (for writing melodies)
2) frequency ranges (highs and lows)
3) composing (combining lots of instruments together)
4) mixing (EQing, adjusting volume levels)

most big tracks take weeks to months of perfection
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NathanaelR2 is not online. NathanaelR2
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16 Jan 2015 05:32 PM
"producing electronic music requires so much more effort than anyone seems to think, it's not just "press a button then profit""

That's what my cousin said. I bet her I could write, record, and produce an electronic song in an hour and have it be at least DECENT. Decent as in you'd rate it 7/10.

I succeeded. It's not hard to make electronic music. You don't need to know music theory for it. And mixing is easy. You want hard music composition/production that requires talent? Orchestral.
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NotAshley is not online. NotAshley
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16 Jan 2015 05:32 PM
not to mention the requirement of understanding the genre you're producing, such as tempo, etc
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mikeyman12ash is not online. mikeyman12ash
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16 Jan 2015 05:33 PM
dubstep is almost entirely rhythm-based

anyone who listens to it expecting genius melody and chord progressions will be disappointed[2]
granted i don't even like dubstep that much

"dubstep is a press of the button

old music actually took work and was music

dubstep is just noise."

music in general is just noise, all comes down to what kind of noise you like

One sure mark of a fool is to dismiss anything that falls outside his experience as being impossible.
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D3vel0per is not online. D3vel0per
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16 Jan 2015 05:34 PM
"Dubstep is just a press of a button"

WOW XD XD XD Dude back then all they had to do was get some instruments and and have a singer, then play. Dubstep is WAY harder to make then that old music.
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giftbox24 is not online. giftbox24
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16 Jan 2015 05:34 PM
That's foolish
Why would you rate music by how it's made?
Do we listen to songs because they sound good? Or do we listen songs because we know that the musicians took a long time to make the song?
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NotAshley is not online. NotAshley
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16 Jan 2015 05:34 PM
"You don't need to know music theory for it."

yes you do, unless you're copy/pasting some garbage samples of already written melodies, or take chord progressions from other songs

writing a melody that sounds good and knowing what chords to use requires music theory, mixing everything together so it sounds good requires music theory, and knowing how to structure the song and match melodies to the rhythm requires music theory
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mikeyman12ash is not online. mikeyman12ash
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16 Jan 2015 05:35 PM
"You want hard music composition/production that requires talent? Orchestral."

orchestral isn't that bad if you can play piano tbh
making it all blend together is difficult but if you know concert pitch and what to transpose to where you should be good


One sure mark of a fool is to dismiss anything that falls outside his experience as being impossible.
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SteadyRhythm is not online. SteadyRhythm
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16 Jan 2015 05:35 PM
I do all that and more.

Heck I can do what they do on garageband in 10 minutes it's not hard at all.

I mix it enough to the point where every note played is on rhythm and at the right amount of volume. It's easy. Having a real band isnt. Especially playing two instruments at the same time like me.

do you have significant evidence to support that statement?
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giftbox24 is not online. giftbox24
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16 Jan 2015 05:35 PM
Let me tell you how to make a song
first you write and half of a good song
then you wait 2 years
after 2 years, you finish the 2nd half of the song
because you took such a long time to make it, it will be good!
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16 Jan 2015 05:35 PM
"WOW XD XD XD Dude back then all they had to do was get some instruments and and have a singer, then play. Dubstep is WAY harder to make then that old music."
LOL
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Flunken is not online. Flunken
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16 Jan 2015 05:35 PM
everyone
it doesn't matter
because we are all God's children
and God will love us, no matter what kind of music we like
now go to church and feel the light
God is within all of us



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D3vel0per is not online. D3vel0per
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16 Jan 2015 05:36 PM
We are talking about good dubstep, not that random beep sounds and stuff.
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mikeyman12ash is not online. mikeyman12ash
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16 Jan 2015 05:36 PM
"WOW XD XD XD Dude back then all they had to do was get some instruments and and have a singer, then play. Dubstep is WAY harder to make then that old music."

i disagree
Case in point: Painkiller guitar solos


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crystalcat413 is not online. crystalcat413
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16 Jan 2015 05:37 PM
why do younger people pretending to be older people say dubstep is not real music
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NathanaelR2 is not online. NathanaelR2
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16 Jan 2015 05:37 PM
"yes you do,"

No you don't. I've worked on, composed, and produced music and gotten paid for it plenty. I'm in college and learning all about music production. You don't need to know music theory. Disagree? Argue with my professors, and THEN argue with me.

So self-righteous it's disgusting. I'm going to an arts college to learn all of this and you're preaching that you know more than me and the professors at the college. Pathetic.
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giftbox24 is not online. giftbox24
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16 Jan 2015 05:37 PM
As a musician, I collect the finest of instruments. Why, one of my most recent purchases was a 700 year old violin, and it's still in mint condition.
I actually have no idea how to play it. But since it is a tangible instrument, it will always sound better than dubstep when I play it.
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mikeyman12ash is not online. mikeyman12ash
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16 Jan 2015 05:37 PM
"Especially playing two instruments at the same time like me."

how do you even do that i can only thing of one instrument you can play one-handed and that's a trumpet


One sure mark of a fool is to dismiss anything that falls outside his experience as being impossible.
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NotAshley is not online. NotAshley
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16 Jan 2015 05:37 PM
"Heck I can do what they do on garageband in 10 minutes it's not hard at all."

>10 minutes
>garageband

>GARAGEBAND


ok

I'm done
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Zyliox is not online. Zyliox
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16 Jan 2015 05:39 PM
this took effort
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKfxmFU3lWY

Goats on a boat! Will they float?
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