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Re: Why is everybody so upset over John selling JC?

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shadowelliot2302 is not online. shadowelliot2302
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09 Jan 2015 07:14 PM
Apart from devoted members of Johns Cobras whose careers have literally been ended then perhaps your voice would have some meaning but I can't understand everybody else.

Pspjohn created Johns Cobras and for years built it up into something tremendous, although, I'm very sure everyone noticed during the time span in-which Atomic owned it for the few months that he did and that Johns Cobras fell considerably in all aspects.

Are people upset because they believe John didn't have the right to take back the group he put effort into and make some actual money off of this game, is it because he lied to Atomic in order to receive his group back? What, would you of expected Atomic to willfully agree to hand over JC if John told him 'Hey, could I have Johns Cobras back so I can sell it for some money?'; obviously not.

And lastly, if you aren't in Johns Cobras then I honestly don't know why you don't mind your own business. It's ridiculous.

im surprized so many r going like 'support' over john simply cashing in that which he created and earned

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ConexLeader is not online. ConexLeader
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09 Jan 2015 07:14 PM
Because they don't own it.
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Bahll is not online. Bahll
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09 Jan 2015 07:15 PM
Because they recognise it's a d 3 3 k move.
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LuckLuckbronie is not online. LuckLuckbronie
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09 Jan 2015 07:16 PM
stfu idiot
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Vaul is not online. Vaul
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09 Jan 2015 07:16 PM
Because he not only sold out the group, but the people who followed him.
The large amount of people that had his back when they believed they were being led to a rebellion.
They had over 100 people in less than 3 hours.
That's loyalty.
And he sold them out for $600.
He's a cheap-ass, traitorous liar.
Who led his friends into belief that he was coming back, only to sell them out for a little extra cash.


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superlosersx3 is not online. superlosersx3
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09 Jan 2015 07:17 PM
Shadow we can do whatever we want... People can talk about it all the feel if they choose too lol. Some person over the internet really telling other people to mind their own business? Lmao irony.
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Zapirian517 is not online. Zapirian517
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09 Jan 2015 07:18 PM
Because he not only sold out the group, but the people who followed him.
The large amount of people that had his back when they believed they were being led to a rebellion.
They had over 100 people in less than 3 hours.
That's loyalty.
And he sold them out for $600.
He's a cheap-ass, traitorous liar.
Who led his friends into belief that he was coming back, only to sell them out for a little extra cash. [2]


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628ninja is not online. 628ninja
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09 Jan 2015 07:18 PM
vaul you just changed my whole look on this situation
holy crap
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shadowelliot2302 is not online. shadowelliot2302
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09 Jan 2015 07:19 PM
Why must he live up to other peoples hopes? Did he ask those people to ever believe in him? If you didn't know Pspjohn used Johns Cobras to devex, it was clearly obvious even while he owned the group.
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AtomicRXN is not online. AtomicRXN
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09 Jan 2015 07:19 PM
"What, would you of expected Atomic to willfully agree to hand over JC if John told him 'Hey, could I have Johns Cobras back so I can sell it for some money?'; obviously not."

That's taking it to the extreme.
He promised to RETURN the clan to me, and REGARDLESS of whether or not he had said that to me, I still would have given back JC.
I didn't hesitate for a second giving it back.

What bugs me is the fact that he had lied to me the whole way, given me fake support- and most of all, manipulated me into giving him JC so he could make some cash out of it.

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superlosersx3 is not online. superlosersx3
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09 Jan 2015 07:19 PM
Because he not only sold out the group, but the people who followed him.
The large amount of people that had his back when they believed they were being led to a rebellion.
They had over 100 people in less than 3 hours.
That's loyalty.
And he sold them out for $600.
He's a cheap-ass, traitorous liar.
Who led his friends into belief that he was coming back, only to sell them out for a little extra cash. [3]


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superlosersx3 is not online. superlosersx3
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09 Jan 2015 07:22 PM
Shadow since you're in RAT, if you ever obtained leadership would you sell it just because you can?
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Vaul is not online. Vaul
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09 Jan 2015 07:22 PM
He asked people to join his fake rebellion.
You wouldn't believe how many people left their seats in JC to join him.

It was more or less inspiring.
None the less, it was cool that John would take JC into his own hands again.
Instead, his sick-ass sold out his colleagues, who he'd ask to believe him.
Where he promised his good friend the group after a quick revival in morale.
Instead, it was all a sick plot to make some money.


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Bellaz is not online. Bellaz
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09 Jan 2015 07:22 PM
Although I agree that what he did wasn't exactly noble, you will have to realize at some point that this is still a virtual game. I think a good 90% of people in John's position would have sold it too. 600 usd is a considerable amount of cash and could be used for a number of things, while loyalty to some group you created ages ago that's lost its quality over the years and has a horde of 12 year olds isn't really as worthwhile as the cash.

I can see why people think their careers are ruined, and if I were a High Rank in JC, I would probably not be very happy about it either, but honestly I admit I probably would have done it too
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shadowelliot2302 is not online. shadowelliot2302
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09 Jan 2015 07:23 PM
I'm pretty sure Atlas Armada proves my point that you wouldn't so freely give the group to John, I won't deny the fact that you still had things planned for Johns Cobras, but if told to give away Cobras so John could make some spare cash would you honestly give away the group so freely? You may still say no but if time was reversed and he told you he wanted it for money would you do so?
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Tzamungandr is not online. Tzamungandr
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09 Jan 2015 07:23 PM
Vaul, I love when your signature becomes relevant to the topic.

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Vaul is not online. Vaul
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09 Jan 2015 07:24 PM
Atom made the group after John sold it because he wanted to use the REALLY cool tech he'd already made for JC so far.

You're uneducated on the situation, shadow.


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09 Jan 2015 07:25 PM
Because he not only sold out the group, but the people who followed him.
The large amount of people that had his back when they believed they were being led to a rebellion.
They had over 100 people in less than 3 hours.
That's loyalty.
And he sold them out for $600.
He's a cheap-ass, traitorous liar.
Who led his friends into belief that he was coming back, only to sell them out for a little extra cash. [4]

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shadowelliot2302 is not online. shadowelliot2302
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09 Jan 2015 07:29 PM
If John 'sold out his colleagues then they were never really colleagues to him in the first place.

In a metaphorical and ironic sense, John was a snake.

Those who trusted him must live with his deceit and let things pass, to accept that Johns Cobras is over.
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Vaul is not online. Vaul
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09 Jan 2015 07:30 PM
John has led his team since what? 2011.
They'd have his trust, I would too.
But he sold them out, and that's scum to the max.


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assasinlord5 is not online. assasinlord5
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09 Jan 2015 07:33 PM
"I'm pretty sure Atlas Armada proves my point that you wouldn't so freely give the group to John"

Atomic was going to quit ROBLOX before we convinced him to make a new group, he only made it because of the support the people gave after he made his thread. John at the end of the day is the creator of JC and he would have received the group back no matter what because at the end of the day JC is always his.
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shadowelliot2302 is not online. shadowelliot2302
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09 Jan 2015 07:33 PM
John did literally sell-out JC but in a metaphorical sense so did Atomic.

He killed the clan, which led him to accepting help from John which turned out to be deceit.
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Vaul is not online. Vaul
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09 Jan 2015 07:34 PM
Atomic might not be fit,
but selling it out to a renowned scammer and ddoser?


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AtomicRXN is not online. AtomicRXN
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09 Jan 2015 07:34 PM
"I'm pretty sure Atlas Armada proves my point that you wouldn't so freely give the group to John, I won't deny the fact that you still had things planned for Johns Cobras, but if told to give away Cobras so John could make some spare cash would you honestly give away the group so freely? You may still say no but if time was reversed and he told you he wanted it for money would you do so?"

I created Atlas Armada at the request of a bunch of community members asking me to do so. Otherwise, I would have quit ROBLOX or spent the last of my days having fun with friends. You invalidated your own 'if' statement by asking me, "You may still say no but if time was reversed and he told you he wanted it for money would you do so?"

He never asked me that, and never would have asked me something so ludicrous in both of our situations.
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jrad217 is not online. jrad217
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09 Jan 2015 07:37 PM
To me, it's upsetting cause he's selling it for profit. He's not passing down the rank of group leader, he's not running tests to choose a candidate for group leader; he's selling it for his own profit.
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