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Re: Hello, Aeronium.

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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
Joined: 24 Sep 2011
Total Posts: 67829
08 Jan 2015 06:23 PM
I would like you sincerely apologize, on behalf of the Evolution Initiative, for the incessant flame and utter disrespect displayed by our members at your recent raid upon us.

This disgusting behavior does not reflect upon the true values of the Evolution Initiative, as far as I am concerned, and I am sure that, in the future, behavior like that aforementioned will be dealt with, with the utmost severity.

^^
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powerclimber is not online. powerclimber
Joined: 18 Apr 2011
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08 Jan 2015 06:23 PM
flaming is how you win
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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
Joined: 24 Sep 2011
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08 Jan 2015 06:24 PM
I would like to*****
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Frized is not online. Frized
Joined: 05 Nov 2012
Total Posts: 7966
08 Jan 2015 06:25 PM
Tom

You seem like an intelligent young entrepreneur striving to be the best you can be

Thank you for making this post before I had to

.....

!
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Liquidation is not online. Liquidation
Joined: 12 May 2012
Total Posts: 5831
08 Jan 2015 06:25 PM
Sorry Aeronium, our flaming was completely uncalled for and extremely immature of us.
I'm ashamed to even call myself a member of EI. If you want me to I can quit.

Never forget. 1/8/15
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lyingzerman is not online. lyingzerman
Joined: 05 Aug 2010
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08 Jan 2015 06:26 PM
;-;
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ForgottenLeader is not online. ForgottenLeader
Joined: 21 Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1472
08 Jan 2015 06:29 PM
To think of it, it was EI who were being disrespectful

I guess you guys forgot your manners



You should fix up your terrain disadvantage to the raiders though

Your base are your crutches, without them you'll fall



You should also try raiding Aeronium, we have a fair base unlike yours -_-
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Liquidation is not online. Liquidation
Joined: 12 May 2012
Total Posts: 5831
08 Jan 2015 06:31 PM
Sorry, that 2.5 stud drop per 2 rocks at your spawn is too OP.

Not too mention your 3.5-4 second FF that sllows you to kill any EI under your spawn.

We'll nerf that.
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DEMONI0 is not online. DEMONI0
Joined: 26 Mar 2013
Total Posts: 75
08 Jan 2015 06:32 PM
Your apology is not accepted -Aeronium
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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
Joined: 24 Sep 2011
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08 Jan 2015 06:33 PM
Every base has an advantage, and even with the slight 'terrain advantage', our base is still extremely fair compared to several other bases.
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DEMONI0 is not online. DEMONI0
Joined: 26 Mar 2013
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08 Jan 2015 06:35 PM
No your base is a horrible.
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ForgottenLeader is not online. ForgottenLeader
Joined: 21 Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1472
08 Jan 2015 06:36 PM
"Sorry, that 2.5 stud drop per 2 rocks at your spawn is too OP.

Not too mention your 3.5-4 second FF that sllows you to kill any EI under your spawn.

We'll nerf that."

Here are a few things to fix up, your base looks fair but looks can always be deceiving

- remove the invisible wall on raiders spawn
- flat out the terrain in the middle of our spawn between raiders and EI
- remove the extra passages EI has to get on top of the cave
- even the terrain on top of the cave (as soon as we jump it makes us jump twice since the rock size is about the same as our roblox size) it allows ei to just stand still and lunge = free kills
- make the cave height the same for raiders and ei, yours is so much easier to get on top of, raiders need to try several times while EI only needs to try once since its so short
- remove the crossing bridge part, as long as we don't go on your spawn mountain top then it should be fine
- reduce the terminal size or server size due to the small tiny crowded base
- reduce your ego
- reduce your ugliness
- reduce the od'ing

Nerf it now
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ForgottenLeader is not online. ForgottenLeader
Joined: 21 Aug 2012
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08 Jan 2015 06:38 PM
"Every base has an advantage, and even with the slight 'terrain advantage', our base is still extremely fair compared to several other bases."

its not a small advantage

its a major advantage

small advantages are basically spawning by like 2 seconds closer but thats about it

your base is designed not to be won at
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Frized is not online. Frized
Joined: 05 Nov 2012
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08 Jan 2015 06:39 PM
My members wouldn't be rude ingame if they could log onto the forums or anywhere for that matter and not see

"EI IS BAD JOIN AERO LOL"
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DEMONI0 is not online. DEMONI0
Joined: 26 Mar 2013
Total Posts: 75
08 Jan 2015 06:40 PM
Both Aeronium base and Evolution Imperium base are horrible nuff said.
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ForgottenLeader is not online. ForgottenLeader
Joined: 21 Aug 2012
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08 Jan 2015 06:42 PM
@Demo

Our base may be ugly but it's beyond fair

@Frized

"My members wouldn't be rude ingame if they could log onto the forums or anywhere for that matter and not see

"EI IS BAD JOIN AERO LOL""

Where does it say "EI IS BAD JOIN AERO LOL"" ??

Is this more BS youre cmng up with??

Get a fair base then smack talk when we lose there

Your base are your crutches, its carrying your reputation of "undefeated"

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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
Joined: 24 Sep 2011
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08 Jan 2015 06:43 PM
Why did you not consider these tiny advantages before you declared war?

"- remove the invisible wall on raiders spawn"

There is an invisible wall on our spawn too.


"- flat out the terrain in the middle of our spawn between raiders and EI"

That's the only 'major' disadvantage you have.

'- remove the extra passages EI has to get on top of the cave'

You can get onto the cave as fast as we can.


'- even the terrain on top of the cave (as soon as we jump it makes us jump twice since the rock size is about the same as our roblox size) it allows ei to just stand still and lunge = free kills'

Minor terrain difference. There is an easy way for you to do the same thing on our side of the cave.

'- make the cave height the same for raiders and ei, yours is so much easier to get on top of, raiders need to try several times while EI only needs to try once since its so short'

Such a minor difference. You're picking out all of these tiny differences in the terrain because you are not used to it.

It's honestly not worth paying any attention to.

You're pretty much asking us to make our base 100% symmetrical, which is an absurd request.

"your base is designed not to be won at"

I'm sure if you outnumbered us it would be far easier. It's actually a relatively fair base. The spawn distances are almost the same, and the only major difference is the terrain in front of your spawn.

One would think that someone who calls their group the best would be able to overcome the almost microscopic differences is an otherwise extremely fair base.

Not every base is going to be 100% symmetrical. I think it would be best to swallow your pride and get over it.

Just some friendly advice.


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gluReapers is not online. gluReapers
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08 Jan 2015 06:45 PM
Sword clans in a nutshell
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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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08 Jan 2015 06:48 PM
A history lesson, folks. A fair base does not have to be 100% even and symmetrical. If this were the case, we'd slap a flag between two completely even spawning locations and call it a base.

But this isn't the case.

Bases are not meant to be 110% fair. You can choose to make your base extremely fair, but nobody (except you, of course) is going to try to tear you apart over a minor difference that would hardly affect the raid if the odds were in the raiders' favor.

Not everything is going to go your way. You're asking us to make tiny adjustments to our base because you can't get over the fact that your clan is NOT invincible.

If you did not like the base, you should not have declared war, otherwise we hold no obligation to make changes to our base at all, because it is you who decided to go to war with us, when our base was how it is.

I believe that if you had anticipated any problem with our base, you should have raided first.

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DEMONI0 is not online. DEMONI0
Joined: 26 Mar 2013
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08 Jan 2015 06:50 PM
@Forgotten your base may be more fair, but it's not 100% fair the fact that you have a touch term that reduces the raiders time by -10 every time they capture is unfair, Also the rules that give your members a advantage in the fort.
- 1 hour and 30 raiding limit.
- Must have 6 Aeronium members to begin with.
How do these rules give you advantage? First off, all Aeronium needs to do is make sure raiders don't hold the base for 1,500 seconds, they don't even need to fight as long as they can touch the base, "ANYONE CAN DO THAT!" If you want it to be fair, how about you make it so that Aeronium also needs to hold the base for 1,500 seconds, not defend for a hour and a half, And to make it worse "Must Have 6 Aeronium members to begin with", With a base like that who needs 6 defenders, that's just overkill like i said all you need to do is touch the base, not hold. So don't be bragging about how fair your base is cause it's not any better then others.
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ForgottenLeader is not online. ForgottenLeader
Joined: 21 Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1472
08 Jan 2015 07:06 PM
"Why did you not consider these tiny advantages before you declared war?"

What are negotiations for you? Idiot

"There is an invisible wall on our spawn too."

Not the walls surrounding the map, I mean the one blocking us from going on the left. That red block, it's longer than it actually looks like

"That's the only 'major' disadvantage you have."

Tactical advantage plays a huge role in combat you idiot

"You can get onto the cave as fast as we can."

We raided and everyone was respawned, EI was 3-6 seconds ahead of Raiders. The terrain and invisible walls slow us down

"Minor terrain difference. There is an easy way for you to do the same thing on our side of the cave."

Oh god you're an idiot, don't talk to me about combat knowledge. If you can't even realize at how unfair the base is built, you should shut it.

"Such a minor difference. You're picking out all of these tiny differences in the terrain because you are not used to it."

It's not about being used it or not, it's what slows us down. EI can stay in certain spots where raiders can't kill them and EI can.

"It's honestly not worth paying any attention to."

You're an idiot, it should be me saying that to you

"You're pretty much asking us to make our base 100% symmetrical, which is an absurd request."

No I didn't say for you to do that, all I requested was for the base to be more fair. In game you guys even claimed that our base is unfair and how your base is more fair

"I'm sure if you outnumbered us it would be far easier. It's actually a relatively fair base. The spawn distances are almost the same, and the only major difference is the terrain in front of your spawn."

You're an idiot if you rely on numbers to win

"One would think that someone who calls their group the best would be able to overcome the almost microscopic differences is an otherwise extremely fair base."

Have I ever said Aeronium = #1...?

Stupidity after stupidity, it just won't stop!

"Not every base is going to be 100% symmetrical. I think it would be best to swallow your pride and get over it.

Just some friendly advice."

What pride have I shown but courage?
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ForgottenLeader is not online. ForgottenLeader
Joined: 21 Aug 2012
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08 Jan 2015 07:07 PM
"@Forgotten your base may be more fair, but it's not 100% fair the fact that you have a touch term that reduces the raiders time by -10 every time they capture is unfair, Also the rules that give your members a advantage in the fort.
- 1 hour and 30 raiding limit.
- Must have 6 Aeronium members to begin with.
How do these rules give you advantage? First off, all Aeronium needs to do is make sure raiders don't hold the base for 1,500 seconds, they don't even need to fight as long as they can touch the base, "ANYONE CAN DO THAT!" If you want it to be fair, how about you make it so that Aeronium also needs to hold the base for 1,500 seconds, not defend for a hour and a half, And to make it worse "Must Have 6 Aeronium members to begin with", With a base like that who needs 6 defenders, that's just overkill like i said all you need to do is touch the base, not hold. So don't be bragging about how fair your base is cause it's not any better then others."

Do you know what roll back timers are? I'm pretty sure raiders would Prefer rollback over full reset. If raiders were to be close to 1500 seconds it would take 150 seconds for Aeronium to reset it. Most bases have 5-10 seconds for full reset. Compare 150 seconds to 5-10 seconds, use some logic.

Most bases have 1 hour and 30 minute raid limit, look at all the clan overall rules. How is 6 too little...? Most have 6-8, our base is 100% fair too and it's at max 30 players.

Rollback timer requires you to hold, reset timers do not. I think you've stayed up to late because your brain isn't functioning properly
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DEMONI0 is not online. DEMONI0
Joined: 26 Mar 2013
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08 Jan 2015 07:23 PM
@Forgotten it doesn't matter if it's rollback timer what i said is that all you guys need to do is recapture, you don't need to hold! Any monkey can capture a freaking base holding is a different story! If you want your base to be 100% Fair make it so that Aeronium needs to hold for 1,500 Seconds, Then you will see how hard it is to win against a base like yours, use some logic.
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ForgottenLeader is not online. ForgottenLeader
Joined: 21 Aug 2012
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08 Jan 2015 07:24 PM
@Forgotten it doesn't matter if it's rollback timer what i said is that all you guys need to do is recapture, you don't need to hold! Any monkey can capture a freaking base holding is a different story! If you want your base to be 100% Fair make it so that Aeronium needs to hold for 1,500 Seconds, Then you will see how hard it is to win against a base like yours, use some logic.

.....

You're making me realize how stupid you are

THE TERMINAL DOES NOT FULLY RESET

WE NEED TO HOLD IT DOWN UNTIL THE TERM GOES ALL THE WAY BACK UP TO 1500 SECONDS

USE SOME GOD DAMN LOGIC

IDIOTS.. SO MANY OMG..............
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ForgottenLeader is not online. ForgottenLeader
Joined: 21 Aug 2012
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08 Jan 2015 07:26 PM
I would hold it down for 1,500 seconds if I had no life

I would honestly, no joke but I would remove the rollback timer

Not to mention that, rarely any clan does that

Even then, it's just to speed up winning a defense

I also don't have hours and hours in my schedule to spend on ROBLOX everyday
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