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Re: Idea: add a "Terms of Agreement" to the Sign Up page.

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perfection0638 is not online. perfection0638
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03 Jan 2015 04:48 PM
In the Terms of Agreement you will read all the rules of ROBLOX, there will be a checkbox which says "By checking this checkbox you agree to the rules that are listed above, otherwise your account will result into a ban, or in the worst case, a termination.". If you don't check the checkbox you will not be able to create an account. What this is supposed to do is preventing people from getting banned or terminated for things that they don't even know to be forbidden to do. Or atleast, if they check the checkbox without reading the Terms of Agreement, that admins can tell those people that they should of read and followed the rules that were listed in the Terms of Agreement.

If your opinion on this idea is positive then please post "Support" and eventually a little addition to it. If your opinion on this idea is negative please post "No support" and preferable why you don't support too.
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yoshe123 is not online. yoshe123
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03 Jan 2015 04:50 PM
No need to tell the Subforum how to support, bro.

Also, support.
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perfection0638 is not online. perfection0638
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03 Jan 2015 04:52 PM
@yosh

I wanted to make it like a petition with obvious answers, so the admins could be very sure what someone's opinion on it is. Also, thanks.
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OreoBabe is not online. OreoBabe
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03 Jan 2015 04:59 PM
No support from me, sorry. I just don't think this is necessary. People get the general idea of what gets them banned. Profanity, rudeness, threats, etc.. it's the same for almost every website, there's nothing special or strict.

Most people on ROBLOX have gotten banned before, but it starts out small, like a warning. They get the time, infraction, and reason, and they get the idea. ROBLOX already has a set of rules if users are interested, however I haven't heard of cases where users didn't know why they were banned or they didn't know what was allowed and so forth.

It's just common sense. They even tell you why you were banned, and how to not to act in the future.
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kurtisss111 is not online. kurtisss111
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03 Jan 2015 05:00 PM
i guess i support
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OmikronX is not online. OmikronX
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03 Jan 2015 05:01 PM
*Clicks on the Support Button*
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perfection0638 is not online. perfection0638
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03 Jan 2015 05:04 PM
"No support from me, sorry. I just don't think this is necessary. People get the general idea of what gets them banned. Profanity, rudeness, threats, etc.. it's the same for almost every website, there's nothing special or strict. "

There are quite a few people who are very young and new to the internet who play ROBLOX. I think they should be informed with exact rules when creating an account. (Keep in mind that most of the young kids who create an account on ROBLOX do it with a parent sitting next to them.)


"Most people on ROBLOX have gotten banned before, but it starts out small, like a warning. They get the time, infraction, and reason, and they get the idea. ROBLOX already has a set of rules if users are interested, however I haven't heard of cases where users didn't know why they were banned or they didn't know what was allowed and so forth."

Example: you figure out that it is possible to get your game popular by making a bunch of alts and thumbing up your game with them. Doesn't sound guilty at all right? Yet it gives you a termination without warning.


"It's just common sense. They even tell you why you were banned, and how to not to act in the future."

Yeah, that's AFTER it happens. When getting some good education about the rules before betraying them you won't need to get a 1, 3, 7, 14 or even permanent ban. Not all first bans are simple warnings.
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PresidentBen is not online. PresidentBen
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03 Jan 2015 05:08 PM
When you join ROBLOX, you get an automated message from Builderman. "The basic rules of ROBLOX"
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perfection0638 is not online. perfection0638
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03 Jan 2015 05:14 PM
@President, I know, here are some things I would like to mention about that though.

1. You get the message AFTER creating your account. You didn't agree or atleast didn't show that you agree with them.
2. When I open the message, the rules won't appear unless I refresh the page.
3. many people don't even read that message, while a Terms of Agreement at the Sign Up page can't be avoided.
4. The consequences of not following the rules aren't in that message.
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OmikronX is not online. OmikronX
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03 Jan 2015 05:17 PM
+1
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perfection0638 is not online. perfection0638
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03 Jan 2015 05:20 PM
Thanks Omi.
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OreoBabe is not online. OreoBabe
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03 Jan 2015 05:31 PM
"There are quite a few people who are very young and new to the internet who play ROBLOX. I think they should be informed with exact rules when creating an account. (Keep in mind that most of the young kids who create an account on ROBLOX do it with a parent sitting next to them.)"

If they are very young, they are most likely not going to get banned. They don't know about threats and profanity at that young age. And if they do know about that, somehow, then they should know that it's not permitted. If they are caught saying it, they will be banned and they will learn from it. If not, they get banned more often. This is a cycle that's been going on for 7+ years. All without a terms of agreement at the start.


"Example: you figure out that it is possible to get your game popular by making a bunch of alts and thumbing up your game with them. Doesn't sound guilty at all right? Yet it gives you a termination without warning."

That sounds incredibly guilty to me. You're making your game popular through cheating and trickery, that's not innocent in any sense. If you do the crime, do the time. Plus, a termination can be reconsidered if you act quickly. After 3 weeks, it cannot be changed. ROBLOX will most likely lift the termination and give you a warning.

"Yeah, that's AFTER it happens. When getting some good education about the rules before betraying them you won't need to get a 1, 3, 7, 14 or even permanent ban. Not all first bans are simple warnings."

If you get a big ban just starting out, you must of done something pretty crude. In that case, you should understand why you got the ban you did. Getting banned is just something natural that happens to all of us. It comes and goes, and those who choose to learn from it don't have many problems in the future.

Plus, the minute somebody sees, "I agree to the Terms of Agreements", they instantly just click it without a second thought. I doubt any child will sit through and read each individual rule when they're excited to start playing a game.
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OmikronX is not online. OmikronX
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03 Jan 2015 05:34 PM
^
so long
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OreoBabe is not online. OreoBabe
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03 Jan 2015 05:35 PM
^
it's really not, I just had to quote a lot
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wardudeweather is not online. wardudeweather
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03 Jan 2015 05:38 PM
@Oreo
Roblox doesn't lift 99% of the appeals for bans it receives.
Damn Erik.
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OreoBabe is not online. OreoBabe
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03 Jan 2015 05:41 PM
@Wardudeweather

If it's as simple as liking your own game, I figured it wouldn't hurt to appeal it.
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perfection0638 is not online. perfection0638
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03 Jan 2015 05:42 PM
"Plus, the minute somebody sees, "I agree to the Terms of Agreements", they instantly just click it without a second thought. I doubt any child will sit through and read each individual rule when they're excited to start playing a game."

Like I mentioned before, most little kids who create an account together with their parents. Also, their fault if they decide to be too lazy to read something they know to be very important.
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perfection0638 is not online. perfection0638
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03 Jan 2015 05:44 PM
"That sounds incredibly guilty to me. You're making your game popular through cheating and trickery, that's not innocent in any sense. If you do the crime, do the time. Plus, a termination can be reconsidered if you act quickly. After 3 weeks, it cannot be changed. ROBLOX will most likely lift the termination and give you a warning."

I was just giving one simple example, there are way more ways that sound unguilty but that can get you banned. Also, ROBLOX barely lifts terminations.
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wardudeweather is not online. wardudeweather
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03 Jan 2015 05:44 PM
@Oreo
Huge game creators and rich players (I.e PickaxeKing) have been terminated for OTHER people doing it.
There's no warning in thumbing
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OreoBabe is not online. OreoBabe
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03 Jan 2015 05:45 PM
Parents themselves probably won't care much for the rules or terms of agreements. Let's be honest, who ever reads the terms of agreements? And you said it yourself. If they decide to not read the rules that Builderman sends them, then it's their fault and they should play the game at their own risk.

The game will not fall apart just because it doesn't have a set of rules at sign-up.
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OreoBabe is not online. OreoBabe
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03 Jan 2015 05:49 PM
@wardudeweather

That seems so ridiculous that it's almost unbelievable. If that's true, then that's something ROBLOX needs to fix.
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perfection0638 is not online. perfection0638
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03 Jan 2015 05:51 PM
@war, thanks for your addition.

@Oreo, you are simply wasting your time making up reasons why you don't support. You are only talking about benefits that it doesn't has that the current system neither has. Now if you had a good reason why you don't support which shows a disadvantage next to that the current system doesn't has, your posts would be useful. Until then, posting nothing makes you look more intelligent. I've only seen benefits next to the current system for so far.

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OreoBabe is not online. OreoBabe
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03 Jan 2015 05:57 PM
If I see an idea that's useful, but has flaws, then I will add on to make it even better. But this idea? It's neither beneficial or necessary. The fact that I can make up so many reasons why I don't support should be a sign to you that this idea isn't going anywhere.

And I'm not wasting my time, but thanks for your concern. Now, you're requesting a good reason why I don't support that shows a disadvantage next to that the current system doesn't has? I can't make sense of that sentence, no matter how hard I try.

Trying to reply to sentences that aren't worded properly, now that's a waste of my time..
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trainyay is online. trainyay
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03 Jan 2015 06:09 PM
Support. It's really useful and we would see better behavior from Noobs.
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perfection0638 is not online. perfection0638
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03 Jan 2015 06:24 PM
@Oreo

You're seeing flaws in my idea yet you're not giving ideas how to fix them. Now that's a waste of time.
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